thunderstruck wrote:I'm no expert but I recall there being enormous concern during the crack heyday about the effect on the neighborhoods in Detroit. The murder rate spiked, gang activity was ramped up, bullets were flying every day, and consensus seemed to be that a few hits on the crack pipe doomed the user to devastating addiction. Meanwhile, powder was kinda like Chardonnay. Whether by the drug's effect or the patron's lifestyle, it didn't seem to provoke the near terror about devastating results, Scarface not withstanding.
So the reaction, to me, is understandable. As is the concern now about how many black guys are in prison for opting to sling drugs instead of burgers. Our prison population is way too high, it costs way too much, and it sets the stage for a lot of struggle in ex-felon's lives. At the same time, we do have laws against drug usage and selling for good reason, because drugs all too often are brutally destructive.
This is tough to say, knowing D-Day's family tragedy with drugs, but when I look at the overall effect of drugs being illegal, I wonder if legalizing more than just pot might be best. There's so much illicit profit in drug dealing and the accompanying cost in violence, crime, and value destruction that I wonder if broad legalization combined with intensive availability of drug rehab/counseling might work out better in the long run.
A small example: I moved to Boston one night, the next morning my car was gone. By the time I reported it missing it had been found where stolen cars were often found. The cop said they knew who took it, and ripped the stereo out of the dash and stole the wheels, and caused (back then) $6000 in damage. The same guy who stole one every night from my new neighborhood. He had a drug habit. He stole one each day. $6000 x 365 is about $2 million per year in property damage to society, plus all the hassle for 365 victims, all so he could get high on drugs that would probably cost no more than $1K per year if we just gave them to him. I don't know if that's the answer, but it got me thinking.
The other thing that has me wondering is "disparate impact". When actual racism can't be found this becomes the justification for a whole social agenda that shows no notion of limits. The recent housing supreme court case being one example. The way our country works, absent actual racism or discrimination, is that similar socio-economic types cluster. Ethnicities cluster. It's not an ill that needs another government program or DOJ consent decree. We won't soon if ever be a colloidal mixture. Forcing it against free people's wishes reduces freedom
thunderstruck wrote:... I wonder if legalizing more than just pot might be best. There's so much illicit profit in drug dealing and the accompanying cost in violence, crime, and value destruction that I wonder if broad legalization combined with intensive availability of drug rehab/counseling might work out better in the long run.
We need to follow Portugal's lead. It's been almost 15 years since the decriminalization there, and their numbers are better than ours.http://mic.com/articles/110344/14-years ... -happening
The important thing to keep in mind is that Portugal switched from a legal model to a public health model to combat drug use/abuse.
Here are the issues I have with legalizing harder drugs than pot. I am actually in favor of legalizing pot. I have yet to see anyone who has robbed their loved ones half blind order to obtain pot. Heroin, coke, meth, and their derivatives, not so much. And what about legal prescription drugs that are the start of many addictions? That's what led the Tango Uniform D-Day down the dark path that eventually led to her demise. First it was pills, and when those got too expensive, it was a needle. The D-Day In The Can was just stupid, tried it once and, bam, he's hooked
The problem with users are that they're not the victimized wilted flowers that people love to portray them as. They're, most likely, criminals, too, in order to obtain their drugs. And they will scheme in ways that you can't imagine in order to get them. All told, we paid damn near $1000 (We found more at other locations) in getting not even half of our stuff back that the Tango Uniform D-Day stole from us. Most of that just since last Christmas. She was about to be found out and she knew that she was looking at, not only the time that she would have served for the possession charge she was already on probation for, but had she survived her OD, we would have gone after her, as well, and she would have been looking at a slew of theft charges, too. She was not headed for 30 days in the Butler County hole, she was headed up the river and she knew it. The Tango Uniform D-Day was a user, but she was a criminal, too. She wasn't like that before she got hooked. but the fact of the matter is that she got hooked and did all this to us, her family. I shudder to think who else she ripped off. A drug user has to hit rock bottom before they will change (if at all). The Tango Uniform D-Day saw rock bottom, couldn't handle it, and checked out. The D-Day In The Can is there right now, but he's doing it in jail. Where he's safe. Mrs. D-Day and I are convinced that having him re-arrested a few days after his sister died saved us from having to bury another one. And also, this five month stint in jail awaiting his sentence has been the best thing possible for him. Without them seeing rock bottom because of the availability of drugs, I don't see where any amount of rehab is going to help. They're just going to go into rehab, tell the counselors what they want to hear, leave, and get high as soon as they're gone. And they'll do it until they kill themselves
And here's another angle to this. D-Day In The Can's sentencing on two minor felonies (the prosecutor dropped the other two charges) is next Friday. His lawyer has been in contact with me since all of this happened. He got popped for selling 200 hits of (allegedly -- what we have been told -- fake) acid to an undercover Geauga County sheriff. Apparently, one of his buddies in Cleveland rolled over on him and that's how the cops were tipped off. He's looking at probably time served, 90 days inpatient rehab at a facility up there after which he'll have a couple years probation which we're hoping to get transferred to Butler County from Geauga County. There's nobody in Cleveland for him anymore, so keeping him up there is pretty much a death sentence. Here's where I differ from most parents. This sentence is way too lenient. My son is not an honor student. He's not a good kid. At present, he's a junkie, he's a thief, and he's a drug dealer. I am literally horrified that he would have tried to infect someplace with 200 hits of acid and he was raised in my house. He stole my wallet, hid it in the house the day before he was arrested, and had to be threatened with us abandoning him up in jail before he fessed up! All because he wanted the $2 that was in my wallet trying to cobble together the $15 for a score. I mean, WTF?! And when he finally comes home, everyone else that lives in my house will be in their own form of jail because he's there and can't be trusted. All doors locked when not in the house. No more taking off for the weekend for Mrs. D-Day and I unless we take him with, because one of us needs to be in the house at all times if he's home and he can't be trusted to go to one of his "friends" houses. Which leads me to my point, the thought of having an active user living in my house with access to heroin is anathema to me right now (and once again, I'll throw the caveat that I might not be in the right place to cast an informed opinion). What's to stop him, once he goes through his "allocation", to reverting back to stealing to get more? I get the intention, and it's noble, but I just don't see it