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Re: HFD Kids Do the Darn'dest Things

Postby Craig » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:04 pm

Morty wrote:
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Morty wrote:So we sent our son to an arts camp in upstate New York last summer, it was a great experience for him and the surroundings were beautiful. One of the many people he met in his three weeks there was Woody Allen's daughter. They are friends via certain social media platforms, and we are treated to some very amusing reports, and video clips. One degree of separation. So there's that.


Your daughter and Soon-Yi were cabin-mates?


Soon-Yi is the mom in this scenario, and she's not not locked in time, She's 46 now. The daughter posted a video of her running a red light the other day.


Once the daughter, now the wife. However hot she may been or seemed to have been I can only imagine the logical and ethical twists old Woodrow must have gone through to justify his attraction and then acting on it.
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Re: HFD Kids Do the Darn'dest Things

Postby Craig » Fri Mar 03, 2017 1:43 pm

So I'm in a meeting yesterday, a small and casaual affair, and I unintentionally brought everything to a standstill with one phrase: "...and the miracle that we will use to turn the sow's ear into a silk purse is..." The 30-somethings in the room had no clue what I was saying, so out came the smartphones to hunt down the reference. Holy cow, these kids...

Speaking of which, try saying something like "holy cats" in an obviously ironic sense (trying not to say "holy shit") in meetings with the same crowd and they'll look at you like you're Grandpa from the Waltons. And "Lucky Strike extra".... just don't go there.

"Old" isn't defined by a specific age, rather it is established by the proven irrelevancy of one's go-to idioms in casual conversation.
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Re: HFD Kids Do the Darn'dest Things

Postby Mud Bug » Fri Mar 03, 2017 1:58 pm

"Old" is also defined by the failure to grasp nuanced meanings used in the argon of today's youth. Example: 20-something to another 20-something: "That chick you met at the bar last night was SICK!" To my generation, such a statement would infer that the woman needs medical treatment. That's not what they mean, though.
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Re: HFD Kids Do the Darn'dest Things

Postby Navy Blue Scrubs » Sat Mar 04, 2017 6:00 pm

Mud Bug wrote:...To my generation, such a statement would infer that the woman needs medical treatment...


We use this -

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Re: HFD Kids Do the Darn'dest Things

Postby Craig » Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:37 pm

Another older woman is in hot water for snagging a youngster.

Heywood has been AWOL so I'll weigh in: that's a nice-looking woman!

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Re: HFD Kids Do the Darn'dest Things

Postby Craig » Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:42 am

So there's a new "thing" that wasn't around when I was a kid and in the opinion of my kids I'm a lout and a prick and no damn good because I'm not embracing it: out of town trips for high schoolers over spring break. I have two high schoolers and both have been into me about going away. My daughter, 16 went purple and all Susan B. Anthony, crying and shouting and calling me a sexist because I won't let her and a pal (17) drive to Chicago to stay with an aunt and then prowl the city. And my son, 18, is all WTF that I don't want him pairing up with a pal and then driving to Indy to stay in the dorm room of an older buddy who is now an undergrad at Whatsamatta U.

No one else sees the multitude of potential life-altering disasters hovering just at arms' reach? Not these kids, and to a point neither does my wife.
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Re: HFD Kids Do the Darn'dest Things

Postby middle aged female » Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:56 am

Craig wrote:So there's a new "thing" that wasn't around when I was a kid and in the opinion of my kids I'm a lout and a prick and no damn good because I'm not embracing it: out of town trips for high schoolers over spring break. I have two high schoolers and both have been into me about going away. My daughter, 16 went purple and all Susan B. Anthony, crying and shouting and calling me a sexist because I won't let her and a pal (17) drive to Chicago to stay with an aunt and then prowl the city. And my son, 18, is all WTF that I don't want him pairing up with a pal and then driving to Indy to stay in the dorm room of an older buddy who is now an undergrad at Whatsamatta U.

No one else sees the multitude of potential life-altering disasters hovering just at arms' reach? Not these kids, and to a point neither does my wife.

There's a school of thought that letting them do something like this helps prepare them for college when parents will not be hovering nearby to pull them out of scrapes or to make sure they never get into any in the first place. I'd ask a few questions, though, before I let them go off wandering:
How old is Chicago aunt? Is she like 2 yrs or 10 yrs older than pal? Does Aunt live IN the city or burbs? Will she be prowling with them at least part of the time? Could they take the train instead of driving?
Is your boy, who IS 18, going away to college himself next year or will he be living at home with you?
There is something said to letting them fly a little in late in high school. When my older one was in college(18) we let her take the younger one(17) and go to Toronto with a couple "friends" who happened to be boys for 3 days. They drove to Sarnia and took the train so there wasn't a lot of worry about car accidents and in fact there were no incidents that were worth reporting back on. It's kind of gut-grinding when you're going through it but in retrospect I'm glad we trusted them to be adults for a few days. They are both stellar citizens of the world now and one of them even goes to church.
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Re: HFD Kids Do the Darn'dest Things

Postby Craig » Tue Mar 21, 2017 10:59 am

middle aged female wrote:There's a school of thought that letting them do something like this helps prepare them for college when parents will not be hovering nearby to pull them out of scrapes or to make sure they never get into any in the first place. I'd ask a few questions, though, before I let them go off wandering:
How old is Chicago aunt? Is she like 2 yrs or 10 yrs older than pal? Does Aunt live IN the city or burbs? Will she be prowling with them at least part of the time? Could they take the train instead of driving?
Is your boy, who IS 18, going away to college himself next year or will he be living at home with you?
There is something said to letting them fly a little in late in high school. When my older one was in college(18) we let her take the younger one(17) and go to Toronto with a couple "friends" who happened to be boys for 3 days. They drove to Sarnia and took the train so there wasn't a lot of worry about car accidents and in fact there were no incidents that were worth reporting back on. It's kind of gut-grinding when you're going through it but in retrospect I'm glad we trusted them to be adults for a few days. They are both stellar citizens of the world now and one of them even goes to church.


I'm onboard with allowing them to spread their wings and overall they're good and reasonably trustworthy kids...

...when the old man is just around the corner or over the hill & in the shadows. What is terribly spooky is the prospect of these kids encountering people who are genuinely bad. Walk down one wrong street or leave a beverage unattended and then what happens?

Something that pisses me off about the present is the speed with which these and similar requests roll in. Example: a few weeks ago I worked late on the phone with the other side of the country, arrived home wiped out at 8 PM and my son presented a proposal: a pal attending USC offered him frequent-flier points to catch a flight out for a long weekend, with the rub being that he would need to fly out the next afternoon. WTF. Surprise! No, absolutely not. No more ambush proposals where I am asked to countenance something that must be decided RIGHT NOW or else some supposed deal-of-lifetime opportunity passes.

Coda: lest everyone think I'm a complete jerk the deal from the USC pal was to share enough points for half of a ticket. Anyone who flies knows that a one-way ticket is about as expensive as a round-way ride, and one-way from LAX to home was $800 which is a boatload for a high school kid working part time.
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Re: HFD Kids Do the Darn'dest Things

Postby middle aged female » Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:36 pm

Craig wrote:
middle aged female wrote:There's a school of thought that letting them do something like this helps prepare them for college when parents will not be hovering nearby to pull them out of scrapes or to make sure they never get into any in the first place. I'd ask a few questions, though, before I let them go off wandering:
How old is Chicago aunt? Is she like 2 yrs or 10 yrs older than pal? Does Aunt live IN the city or burbs? Will she be prowling with them at least part of the time? Could they take the train instead of driving?
Is your boy, who IS 18, going away to college himself next year or will he be living at home with you?
There is something said to letting them fly a little in late in high school. When my older one was in college(18) we let her take the younger one(17) and go to Toronto with a couple "friends" who happened to be boys for 3 days. They drove to Sarnia and took the train so there wasn't a lot of worry about car accidents and in fact there were no incidents that were worth reporting back on. It's kind of gut-grinding when you're going through it but in retrospect I'm glad we trusted them to be adults for a few days. They are both stellar citizens of the world now and one of them even goes to church.


I'm onboard with allowing them to spread their wings and overall they're good and reasonably trustworthy kids...

...when the old man is just around the corner or over the hill & in the shadows. What is terribly spooky is the prospect of these kids encountering people who are genuinely bad. Walk down one wrong street or leave a beverage unattended and then what happens?

Something that pisses me off about the present is the speed with which these and similar requests roll in. Example: a few weeks ago I worked late on the phone with the other side of the country, arrived home wiped out at 8 PM and my son presented a proposal: a pal attending USC offered him frequent-flier points to catch a flight out for a long weekend, with the rub being that he would need to fly out the next afternoon. WTF. Surprise! No, absolutely not. No more ambush proposals where I am asked to countenance something that must be decided RIGHT NOW or else some supposed deal-of-lifetime opportunity passes.

Coda: lest everyone think I'm a complete jerk the deal from the USC pal was to share enough points for half of a ticket. Anyone who flies knows that a one-way ticket is about as expensive as a round-way ride, and one-way from LAX to home was $800 which is a boatload for a high school kid working part time.

The thing is, it's going to be just as scary in a year or two when they go out on their own. I know you have one out of the nest already, but he's more or less protected by Uncle Sam. I'm not advocating letting them run wild, but it's going to happen sooner or later.
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Re: HFD Kids Do the Darn'dest Things

Postby Craig » Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:56 pm

The local police have been all up in the business of my two youngest boys. There have been break-ins and, per the words of one officer, my guys fit the profile. It's not my kids, I'm 99.9999999% certain. Their good boys, mostly, everyone says so but to paraphrase a neighbor who has watched them grown from tots to young men "they'd never do anything illegal because they know that you'd actually beat them." OK, so the question of fascism as a crime deterrent aside, the smart money says that it is not my guys breaking into cars. Nonetheless, they were rousted as they walked home from work the other evening around midnight. Late-teens out with backpacks: fit the profile, but the mouthy of the two (he cannot help it, he just has no filter) chuckled when told that they look like "the guys" and replied that in our suburb almost everyone looks like them. Touche.

A day or so later a plain-clothes officer shows up at the house. This officer knew them from high school (also an assistant coach), saw their names on a log or run-sheet, and decided to pop over and confirm that his former charges were still on the straight and narrow. One additional detail about the crooks: they can run like hell and easily outpaced pursuing officers in the past. And this second visit/officer's relationship to the boys? Track coach. To wit he knows that they can run like little mother f'ers.

Cross to bragging on my kid (for the running and being able to talk shit with 5-O) and Schemes & Swindles on the off-chance (0.00000000001%) that I've been snowed and they in fact have a collection of radar detectors hidden under their beds.
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Re: HFD Kids Do the Darn'dest Things

Postby The Beav » Mon Jul 31, 2017 7:36 pm

The families of the men said they are honors students in college who have been friends since they were in the first grade.


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Re: HFD Kids Do the Darn'dest Things

Postby Craig » Mon Aug 07, 2017 9:25 am

Late last evening I found a trail of water running to the floor drain in our unfinished basement bathroom. In our last big rainstorm one of the patched holes in the concrete wall was letting in water (this isn't a disaster; with poured basement walls there are holes left behind from the forms, and when they eventually leak about 20 minutes with a long slender chisel and some hydraulic cement puts everything right) so I'm like "damn, Craig, you shouldn't have procrastinated." But it didn't really rain yesterday so I'm all WTF and by working backward find that there is a puddle forming beneath our first-floor bathroom: right under the drain, and it seems to be coming from there. Shoot.

I've never heard of a drain in a tub loosening but I suppose there's a first time for anything. It's late at night and I'm not doing a damn thing more (busy weekend) so I announce to my wife and daughters that this bathroom, adopted by them as a female-only safe space years earlier, is off-limits for bathing until further notice. There's lamentation and tearing of clothes, but damnit, I'm the boss in matters like this. I'm really puzzled because the drip and puddle are way out of proportion to the little river that I had seen on the floor. None of this making sense, and so in bed I watch YouTube videos about drain repair (who in the world has ever had to repair a bathtub drain?!). Early this morning I woke with an idea: I'll just fill the tub with water and then while I'm away at work I'll have the kids who are still home keep an eye on things and watch to see if and where there are drips. Two seconds into implementing this idea and all of my thinking changed: I turn on the water and immediately there is a geyser jetting out from the push-valve that controls whether water comes through the faucet or the shower. I mean a solid jet of water. That's it: lights on and everyone up. "Have you ever seen this?" Yes. "How long has this been going on?" A couple of months. "Holy shit, why didn't anyone tell me (four women of differing ages use this tub/shower every day)?" You seemed busy. This is the plumbing version of the murder of Kitty Genovese: everyone sees the disaster but nobody raises an alarm.

Without having done any real work (not counting the yelling at 7 AM) it looks like I have a valve that has failed. How this translates into water on the floor of the basement I don't yet know, but for certain there is work to be done.
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Re: HFD Kids Do the Darn'dest Things

Postby middle aged female » Mon Aug 07, 2017 9:44 am

Craig wrote:The local police have been all up in the business of my two youngest boys. There have been break-ins and, per the words of one officer, my guys fit the profile. It's not my kids, I'm 99.9999999% certain. Their good boys, mostly, everyone says so but to paraphrase a neighbor who has watched them grown from tots to young men "they'd never do anything illegal because they know that you'd actually beat them." OK, so the question of fascism as a crime deterrent aside, the smart money says that it is not my guys breaking into cars. Nonetheless, they were rousted as they walked home from work the other evening around midnight. Late-teens out with backpacks: fit the profile, but the mouthy of the two (he cannot help it, he just has no filter) chuckled when told that they look like "the guys" and replied that in our suburb almost everyone looks like them. Touche.

A day or so later a plain-clothes officer shows up at the house. This officer knew them from high school (also an assistant coach), saw their names on a log or run-sheet, and decided to pop over and confirm that his former charges were still on the straight and narrow. One additional detail about the crooks: they can run like hell and easily outpaced pursuing officers in the past. And this second visit/officer's relationship to the boys? Track coach. To wit he knows that they can run like little mother f'ers.

Cross to bragging on my kid (for the running and being able to talk shit with 5-O) and Schemes & Swindles on the off-chance (0.00000000001%) that I've been snowed and they in fact have a collection of radar detectors hidden under their beds.

What was the outcome on this, if any? Did you find the radar detectors and sell them off or were the boys just running for the exercise?
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Re: HFD Kids Do the Darn'dest Things

Postby Craig » Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:59 am

middle aged female wrote:
Craig wrote:The local police have been all up in the business of my two youngest boys. There have been break-ins and, per the words of one officer, my guys fit the profile. It's not my kids, I'm 99.9999999% certain. Their good boys, mostly, everyone says so but to paraphrase a neighbor who has watched them grown from tots to young men "they'd never do anything illegal because they know that you'd actually beat them." OK, so the question of fascism as a crime deterrent aside, the smart money says that it is not my guys breaking into cars. Nonetheless, they were rousted as they walked home from work the other evening around midnight. Late-teens out with backpacks: fit the profile, but the mouthy of the two (he cannot help it, he just has no filter) chuckled when told that they look like "the guys" and replied that in our suburb almost everyone looks like them. Touche.

A day or so later a plain-clothes officer shows up at the house. This officer knew them from high school (also an assistant coach), saw their names on a log or run-sheet, and decided to pop over and confirm that his former charges were still on the straight and narrow. One additional detail about the crooks: they can run like hell and easily outpaced pursuing officers in the past. And this second visit/officer's relationship to the boys? Track coach. To wit he knows that they can run like little mother f'ers.

Cross to bragging on my kid (for the running and being able to talk shit with 5-O) and Schemes & Swindles on the off-chance (0.00000000001%) that I've been snowed and they in fact have a collection of radar detectors hidden under their beds.

What was the outcome on this, if any? Did you find the radar detectors and sell them off or were the boys just running for the exercise?


Ha, if only... These are good boys, and by that I mean that there's no apparent criminality or outlying mishievousness about them. Funny, though, because out for a ride the other day I jokingly prodded the older of the two about any more encounters with the police and he remarked that he is hoping that it happens again as in he has something prepared to say to the cops. Uh oh. These kids of mine have grown up in a suburb that has the look and feel of a small town, meaning that real struggle and conflict are more concept than reality. "Don't mess with the police" is a lesson that evidently hasn't been absorbed by this one.
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