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Re: Made It/ Fixed It/ Broke It

Postby caseyc » Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:41 am

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D-Day wrote:After 8 years of owning a home theater in a box, I finally have it set up correctly. The speakers are mounted on the wall and the wires are hidden behind the wall, running through the basement to a central panel behind the TV.

Previously, we only had the front and center hooked up. Wow, what difference in the sound. Upgrades are not done, though. Next month, I am picking up a new receiver with two powered zones, with the second zone being the back porch. Also, at some point we're going to replace the worn out current speakers with some new ones. The current system will then be moved upstairs to our room

I have one the I purchased for our Detroit house when we re-did the upsatirs in 2003.

I have a sub-woofer sitting on my floor in the family room and two speakers sitting on the fireplace - and they have been there since 2008 - they rext of the system is in the garage. I leave the 3 components (un-attached) out because I think one day it will motivate me to hook it up. I should probably throw it all in the garage. Or hire Gannon to hook it up...

No, he's still busy trying to figure out the Super Bowl conspiracy.


After he fixes Ansel's turntable......


We've had the receiver for about three weeks now (Onkyo TX-NR515), but it didn't have a place to hook up the passive sub from the old system, so we've been running sans sub. Sound was OK. Nothing to write home about, though. Yesterday, I went and bought an active sub (Polk PSW-10) after a little bit of playing with the volume and levels we cranked up Prometheus and The Hobbit. And I mean cranked

Oh. My. Fucking. God....I thought I was going to come out of my seat on the couch. Just like being in the theater. The walls in the house were shaking. Amazing sound.....


I do that with a 7+1 channel Onkyo system (subwoofer is new). Put it down in the 19th century lagering cellar at my place. Having the powered subwoofer makes all the difference with those "theater-in-a-box" setups. I don't have anything particularly amazing, but I can crank it up so the floorboards rumble and the walls crumble a bit. The good thing is that nobody borders my cellar and, surprisingly enough, the sound doesn't carry to the first floor much, despite the ancient wood floor and spiral stairs. I don't have a way to attach the speakers to the walls however. They are old stone blocks
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Re: Made It/ Fixed It/ Broke It

Postby D-Day » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:19 am

caseyc wrote:
D-Day wrote:
D-Day wrote:
middle aged female wrote:
Ya Mar wrote:
D-Day wrote:After 8 years of owning a home theater in a box, I finally have it set up correctly. The speakers are mounted on the wall and the wires are hidden behind the wall, running through the basement to a central panel behind the TV.

Previously, we only had the front and center hooked up. Wow, what difference in the sound. Upgrades are not done, though. Next month, I am picking up a new receiver with two powered zones, with the second zone being the back porch. Also, at some point we're going to replace the worn out current speakers with some new ones. The current system will then be moved upstairs to our room

I have one the I purchased for our Detroit house when we re-did the upsatirs in 2003.

I have a sub-woofer sitting on my floor in the family room and two speakers sitting on the fireplace - and they have been there since 2008 - they rext of the system is in the garage. I leave the 3 components (un-attached) out because I think one day it will motivate me to hook it up. I should probably throw it all in the garage. Or hire Gannon to hook it up...

No, he's still busy trying to figure out the Super Bowl conspiracy.


After he fixes Ansel's turntable......


We've had the receiver for about three weeks now (Onkyo TX-NR515), but it didn't have a place to hook up the passive sub from the old system, so we've been running sans sub. Sound was OK. Nothing to write home about, though. Yesterday, I went and bought an active sub (Polk PSW-10) after a little bit of playing with the volume and levels we cranked up Prometheus and The Hobbit. And I mean cranked

Oh. My. Fucking. God....I thought I was going to come out of my seat on the couch. Just like being in the theater. The walls in the house were shaking. Amazing sound.....


I do that with a 7+1 channel Onkyo system (subwoofer is new). Put it down in the 19th century lagering cellar at my place. Having the powered subwoofer makes all the difference with those "theater-in-a-box" setups. I don't have anything particularly amazing, but I can crank it up so the floorboards rumble and the walls crumble a bit. The good thing is that nobody borders my cellar and, surprisingly enough, the sound doesn't carry to the first floor much, despite the ancient wood floor and spiral stairs. I don't have a way to attach the speakers to the walls however. They are old stone blocks


Yeah, I hear ya. The speakers are from the old Sony theater-in-a-box system and are decent. The passive sub was about as useless as tits on a nun. I would have liked to have put a 7.1 system in, but my living room doesn't have a back wall so the speakers would have had to have gone in the ceiling. Doable, but not practical. Yeah....I can definitely see that room down in your basement making an excellent theater room
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Re: Made It/ Fixed It/ Broke It

Postby frank - up in grand blanc » Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:25 pm

Friend of a friend gave me a Johnson-era wood lathe. I know less than jack shit about lathes, but maybe enthusiasm will compensate for some of that ignorance. Anyway, no chuck or faceplate came with this freebie, but I'm thinking that a nut JB Weld-ed to piece of plate or large washer gets me started. If my posts cease after tonight then future frugal wood turners should take heed.
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Re: Made It/ Fixed It/ Broke It

Postby Doctor Detroit » Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:21 pm

frank - up in grand blanc wrote:Friend of a friend gave me a Johnson-era wood lathe. I know less than jack shit about lathes, but maybe enthusiasm will compensate for some of that ignorance. Anyway, no chuck or faceplate came with this freebie, but I'm thinking that a nut JB Weld-ed to piece of plate or large washer gets me started. If my posts cease after tonight then future frugal wood turners should take heed.


Is that goofy dude with the dog still on PBS? He might help you out. My dad built his own lathe out of some old electric motor and some chucks.
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Re: Made It/ Fixed It/ Broke It

Postby frank - up in grand blanc » Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:33 pm

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frank - up in grand blanc wrote:Friend of a friend gave me a Johnson-era wood lathe. I know less than jack shit about lathes, but maybe enthusiasm will compensate for some of that ignorance. Anyway, no chuck or faceplate came with this freebie, but I'm thinking that a nut JB Weld-ed to piece of plate or large washer gets me started. If my posts cease after tonight then future frugal wood turners should take heed.


Is that goofy dude with the dog still on PBS? He might help you out. My dad built his own lathe out of some old electric motor and some chucks.

I can't think of his name but I believe that he used to post here. The guy, not the dog.
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Re: Made It/ Fixed It/ Broke It

Postby middle aged female » Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:39 pm

frank - up in grand blanc wrote:
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frank - up in grand blanc wrote:Friend of a friend gave me a Johnson-era wood lathe. I know less than jack shit about lathes, but maybe enthusiasm will compensate for some of that ignorance. Anyway, no chuck or faceplate came with this freebie, but I'm thinking that a nut JB Weld-ed to piece of plate or large washer gets me started. If my posts cease after tonight then future frugal wood turners should take heed.


Is that goofy dude with the dog still on PBS? He might help you out. My dad built his own lathe out of some old electric motor and some chucks.

I can't think of his name but I believe that he used to post here. The guy, not the dog.

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Re: Made It/ Fixed It/ Broke It

Postby MICHIGAN » Fri Apr 12, 2013 7:53 am

frank - up in grand blanc wrote:Friend of a friend gave me a Johnson-era wood lathe. I know less than jack shit about lathes, but maybe enthusiasm will compensate for some of that ignorance. Anyway, no chuck or faceplate came with this freebie, but I'm thinking that a nut JB Weld-ed to piece of plate or large washer gets me started. If my posts cease after tonight then future frugal wood turners should take heed.


1) Get a fucking chuck and a face plate you cheap bitch

2) Lathes are great but they are fucking dangerous, no long sleeves or hair, no loose clothes or hoodies with ties dangling, I really mean that, you can really get fucked up fast.
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Re: Made It/ Fixed It/ Broke It

Postby frank - up in grand blanc » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:32 am

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frank - up in grand blanc wrote:Friend of a friend gave me a Johnson-era wood lathe. I know less than jack shit about lathes, but maybe enthusiasm will compensate for some of that ignorance. Anyway, no chuck or faceplate came with this freebie, but I'm thinking that a nut JB Weld-ed to piece of plate or large washer gets me started. If my posts cease after tonight then future frugal wood turners should take heed.


1) Get a fucking chuck and a face plate you cheap bitch

2) Lathes are great but they are fucking dangerous, no long sleeves or hair, no loose clothes or hoodies with ties dangling, I really mean that, you can really get fucked up fast.


I love to tinker and not spend money doing it. Or very little money, anyway. If I were a douche I'd probably be a steam punk, or maybe a Mad Max vehicle and weapon builder. But shit, I'm just a guy with kids trying to make a living, and who has the time for all of that extraneous stuff. Still, my router table is something that I made in the backyard, and for a long time my table saw was a platform to which I mounted an inverted circular saw.

Sound advice about the safety issue. I was in the Woodcraft store in Boston last week talking with the guy running the show. What a store, btw, because they are so awful at retail. I told the guy that I was absolutely new to lathes (I was picking up a book for beginners) and he launched into a crash-course re: knives, selecting wood, etc., but he ended with "and if you turn anything larger than a dime (showed me with his fingers) you better wear a face shield cuz things tend to fly off and will break the shit out of your face." That kind of honesty is priceless, and had I means of getting one home on the plane I'd have bought the face shield on the spot just to recognize/reward the advice.

Come to think of it, has anyone ever met Michigan? I mean, crap, he could be the dumpy little guy with the trailing-R problem in Medford (Med-fid) who warned me about the general fucking up and broken face specifically awaiting my newbie self.
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Re: Made It/ Fixed It/ Broke It

Postby MICHIGAN » Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:25 pm

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"and if you turn anything larger than a dime (showed me with his fingers) you better wear a face shield cuz things tend to fly off and will break the shit out of your face." [/quote]

This is exactly why I said to buy a face plate and chuck. On a lathe it is really important to hold the work properly, because all the energy is contained in that work piece and when it breaks loose the shit can really hit the fan. You should buy one that mounts properly to your spindle, or it will come off and then it will be "People Who You Thought Were Dead But Aren't", or some other thread like that.
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Re: Made It/ Fixed It/ Broke It

Postby frank - up in grand blanc » Mon Apr 15, 2013 2:40 pm

Sound advice, I'm sure. The face shield I picked up over the weekend. Still wrestling with the idea of a homemade faceplate. FWW my wife is all "absolutely not," which is kind of touching because it implies that she really does care. On the other hand it may just be a case of not wanting to be a single parent to all of her awful, ill-disciplined kids.
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Re: Made It/ Fixed It/ Broke It

Postby Toolbox » Mon Apr 15, 2013 2:55 pm

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frank - up in grand blanc wrote: "and if you turn anything larger than a dime (showed me with his fingers) you better wear a face shield cuz things tend to fly off and will break the shit out of your face."


This is exactly why I said to buy a face plate and chuck. On a lathe it is really important to hold the work properly, because all the energy is contained in that work piece and when it breaks loose the shit can really hit the fan. You should buy one that mounts properly to your spindle, or it will come off and then it will be "People Who You Thought Were Dead But Aren't", or some other thread like that.


My lab shares a wall with the machine shop at work, lucky me it is filled block. I keep waiting for something to come flying through it one of these days, currently hear a few good thuds now and then.

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Re: Made It/ Fixed It/ Broke It

Postby meme » Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:05 pm

frank - up in grand blanc wrote:Sound advice, I'm sure. The face shield I picked up over the weekend. Still wrestling with the idea of a homemade faceplate. FWW my wife is all "absolutely not," which is kind of touching because it implies that she really does care. On the other hand it may just be a case of not wanting to be a single parent to all of her awful, ill-disciplined kids.



You are being foolish. The medical bills will cost more than the faceplate. Found a video of what it looks like when a piece gets thrown. Just imagine your half-assed faceplate coming with it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X21B_ViwsL0
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Re: Made It/ Fixed It/ Broke It

Postby Stosh Kielbasa » Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:43 pm

meme wrote:
frank - up in grand blanc wrote:Sound advice, I'm sure. The face shield I picked up over the weekend. Still wrestling with the idea of a homemade faceplate. FWW my wife is all "absolutely not," which is kind of touching because it implies that she really does care. On the other hand it may just be a case of not wanting to be a single parent to all of her awful, ill-disciplined kids.



You are being foolish. The medical bills will cost more than the faceplate. Found a video of what it looks like when a piece gets thrown. Just imagine your half-assed faceplate coming with it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X21B_ViwsL0


I have to agree with Meme on this one. I understand the need sometimes to cheap out on certain things.This is not that time, Frank. That face shield won't do shit when your wood, or various parts of this makeshift lathe gets stuck in your neck or chest. Or maybe one in the groin would be fun, that's always good for a few laughs. Look at the bright side, if you get a groin shot, you won't have to worry about having any more ill disciplined kids...
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Re: Made It/ Fixed It/ Broke It

Postby Roy Underhill » Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:20 am

middle aged female wrote:
frank - up in grand blanc wrote:
Doctor Detroit wrote:
frank - up in grand blanc wrote:Friend of a friend gave me a Johnson-era wood lathe. I know less than jack shit about lathes, but maybe enthusiasm will compensate for some of that ignorance. Anyway, no chuck or faceplate came with this freebie, but I'm thinking that a nut JB Weld-ed to piece of plate or large washer gets me started. If my posts cease after tonight then future frugal wood turners should take heed.


Is that goofy dude with the dog still on PBS? He might help you out. My dad built his own lathe out of some old electric motor and some chucks.

I can't think of his name but I believe that he used to post here. The guy, not the dog.

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Re: Made It/ Fixed It/ Broke It

Postby frank - up in grand blanc » Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:04 am

You guys are right, in principle, and I'm even a little touched that you'd say something rather than let me fall into a woodworking equivalent of a meat grinder. But I think about the arsenal of homemade jigs that I use with the table saw, band saw, etc. and wonder: where is the line between safety and paranoia? I don't have the skill to anticipate dangers with a lathe, but in time... maybe.

In poking around on the web I've found references to guys making their own equipment, e.g. http://www.ncwoodworker.net/forums/showthread.php?t=27314

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The difference between a life-long turner and a clown from Detroit are probably inumerable, but still, there it is: guys making and using homespun equipment. In the end I'll probably just spend the 20 bucks to get the basic equipment and then see where it goes.
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