Detroit, the Motor City, a symbol of American industrial strength and a symbol of urban decay in America. These are the images most people have of Detroit. The purpose of this site is to explore and highlight the good, bad and the ugly of Detroit. From the art-deco skyscrapers of downtown and historic Mansions in Boston-Edison the urban blight of Brightmoor and the industrial wasteland in Delray. I hope that with this website I will give people a better understanding of my hometown, Detroit.
Post Number: 53
Posted on Tuesday, March 27, 2007 - 6:06 pm:
An article in today's Slate includes questions I'm sure many of ask ourselves from time to time:
Why do people still live in Detroit, which has suffered so much for so long? Why not move to Chicago or New York?
As an employee of the city, I am relieved by the final sentence:
Detroit will have residents for a long time to come.
Post Number: 2006
Posted on Tuesday, March 27, 2007 - 6:13 pm:
Relieved? How about putting it in context:
Even if we did all this, economists Ed Glaeser and Joe Gyourko argue that one serious barrier remains: Houses do not walk. No matter how bad things get in Detroit or Treorchy, the houses will still be there, and if they are cheap enough, people will want to live in them. The likely result is a gloomy sort of segregation: Those who feel that they can find a good job in the boom cities will move there and pay the higher rents. Those who are less confident of that would rather have no job in a cheap house than no job in an expensive house. Detroit will have residents for a long time to come.
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post Feb 7 2007, 01:22 PM
Joined: 19-May 05
From: North Phoenix, Arizona
Member No.: 4139
Can anyone give a quick rundown of Projects currently underway in Detroit and ones proposed, and of the proposed projects, what are the likeliness of them actually being built? I hear alot of development news out of Detroit, but then little to no substance afterwards.
I'm having trouble getting anything concrete on it, being so far out of the loop from the area.
Joined: 25-May 05
From: Center City Detroit
Member No.: 4261
^Totally agree! The Churchs Chicken across the street too. It HAS to be the next to go. Land is getting to be too valuable along Woodward to have a crappy drive thru restaurant taking up all that space. It attracts a LOT of garbage and is far from easy on the eyes. Especially wedged between the Garfield Building, the Church...and the gas station across the street. There's gas stations at Warren and I-75 for all your gas guzzling needs. Signs can be posted to direct motorists either to that location or to the stations further up across I-94.
Joined: 1-February 07
Member No.: 16312
I agree on Crosswinds. Everyday I wish that a new developer would come and buy them and build something that belongs there. Whats even sadder is that they're building even more facing woodward, and putting what should really go there behind them (ie Garden lofts). The entire Brush Park district just seems to look like a big suburban subdivision, with some urbanism. The whole land and streets should have been cleared and completely redeveloped with something more than just plain 2 story condos and isolated mansions with parking lots and huge backyards sorrounding them.
post Mar 16 2007, 01:55 AM
Joined: 1-March 05
Member No.: 1987
Their site has been under construction for many months, now. They are a local firm, and Mr. Sims has been designing in Detroit for decades, believe it or not. He's done alot of work (renovation, additions) out at Metro Airport.
I'm not sure why (though, I have my suspicions), but there are a lot of local developers, architects, ect...that don't put much stock into their websites, rarely ever answering emails, updating their websites, etc.
Join Date: May 2005
Maybe its just the angle of the picture, but it appears the new Greektown garage is significantly set back from Monroe St. Is the correct? And if so, does anyone know why?
It would seem that if they are having to build up to fit both the hotel and the garage there, that space is a premium. Hence why the setback..
Post Number: 8812
Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 12:36 pm:
Ha-ha, oh YEAH, the Big Chill is a bellweather of all idealistic college kids after ten years or so...that was one of the lamest arguments you've EVER offered, Jelk.
You getting enough sleep? Eating OK?
As the momentum flows with Detoit's artistic and music community recognition around the country...and world, as we already have a bunch of interesting folk's interest...we will reach the Tipping Point.
(one of my favorite 'connectors' in the whole wide world tipped me towards that book the other night!)
(read the description in that Amazon.com page to learn about the term)
Cheers, while I continue to watch the foundational roots for Detroit's unlikely and unexpected blooming continue to grow, sinking deeper and deeper into the collective psyche.
I don't expect one reared in a monied life to understand this easily, but there is hope, I hope.
You apply for that afternoon news show yet?! Heh.
Post Number: 124
Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 2:07 pm:
Futurecity, you don't know what you are talking about re: 55 West, Willy's, and South University Village. They absolutely count and they never would have happened without Wayne State being part of the development.
When it comes down to it, I would much rather have Wayne State controlling the vacant parcels in the neighborhood and partner with developers in the future as opposed to private individuals who may build any crappy building to get back their investment. So friend, stick with what you know which is not Wayne State development. You are probably right regarding development decisions made in the previous 2 decades but since 2000 Wayne State is absolutely on the right track and committed to their 2020 plan, which you should read.
Post Number: 498
Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 1:59 pm:
Thanks for calling me an idiot, Skulker.
Less recent Wayne State projects have been nothing short of a disaster for the North Cass neighborhood. More recent projects are a mixed bag at best.
The new Law School is anti-pedestrian. Somehow in all their infinite Wisdom, Wayne chose to set back the building 75 yards from the sidewalk and put parking in front of it (complete with a guard gate). Even though there is an enormous parking deck directly across the street. A horrible decision that truly gives a mediocre building that "Northwestern Highway Office Building Feel". Perhaps you didn't notice.
The Overland Lofts and 55 W Canfield are being developed privately, so they do not count. Funny how WSU unloaded both of these proper urban buildings.
I haven't seen anything built yet in the South University Village project by Wayne, so the jury is still out on that. Hopefully it will make up for the Giant Eyesore Graduate Housing dorm that they landed on Cass and Canfield.
The new dorms on Third are better than expected, but the buildings and most of the retail are too far from the street. Perhaps this was the best they could do considering the earlier disaster that Wayne State created with the demolition and widening of Third into the semi-ring road of Anthony Wayne drive - truly another major downgrade foisted upon the neighborhood.
How long has the site at Palmer and Woodward been a fenced, surface parking lot? 8 years? They demolished the historic Gleaners building on this site for what? Parking? Yukons and Durangos now happily reside there.
As stated earlier, at best, Wayne's development has been a mixed bag. Yes they bring students activity and investment. But slowly they have acquired portion after portion of the North Cass neighborhood, destroyed it through demolition, created long-term surface parking lots with fences (lovely), and maybe 10-15 years down the line build something that in the end, is still unsuited for an urban neighborhood.
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