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Re: Athletes behaving badly

Postby guest » Sun Jul 07, 2013 2:59 pm

Passions overflowed into something truly horrifying at an amateur soccer match last week in Brazil when a referee stabbed and killed a player on the field, and was himself brutally attacked, decapitated and quartered by spectators.

The violence started when referee Octavio da Silva Catanhede Jordan, 20, issued a red card to player Josenir dos Santos Abreu, 31, during a match on June 30, the Public Safety Department of the northeast Brazilian state of Maranhao said.

When Abreu argued with Jordan, refusing to leave the pitch and insulting the referee, Jordan pulled out a knife and began stabbing Abreu multiple times on the field.

Abreu died on the way to the hospital, but Jordan didn't make it that far.

Spectators attacked Jordan, and according to witness reports, tied him up and stoned him. They then decapitated him, quartered him and stuck his head on a stake in the middle of the field.

Police chief Valter Costa said one 27-year-old man has been arrested and others are being questioned. "We will identify and hold accountable all those involved," Costa said. "A crime will never justify another. Actions like this do not collaborate with the legality of a state law.”


Huh, and they call Detroit a sports town.
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Re: Athletes behaving badly

Postby D-Day » Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:19 pm

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Passions overflowed into something truly horrifying at an amateur soccer match last week in Brazil when a referee stabbed and killed a player on the field, and was himself brutally attacked, decapitated and quartered by spectators.

The violence started when referee Octavio da Silva Catanhede Jordan, 20, issued a red card to player Josenir dos Santos Abreu, 31, during a match on June 30, the Public Safety Department of the northeast Brazilian state of Maranhao said.

When Abreu argued with Jordan, refusing to leave the pitch and insulting the referee, Jordan pulled out a knife and began stabbing Abreu multiple times on the field.

Abreu died on the way to the hospital, but Jordan didn't make it that far.

Spectators attacked Jordan, and according to witness reports, tied him up and stoned him. They then decapitated him, quartered him and stuck his head on a stake in the middle of the field.

Police chief Valter Costa said one 27-year-old man has been arrested and others are being questioned. "We will identify and hold accountable all those involved," Costa said. "A crime will never justify another. Actions like this do not collaborate with the legality of a state law.”


Huh, and they call Detroit a sports town.


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Re: Athletes behaving badly

Postby The Suburban Avenger » Mon Jul 22, 2013 12:48 pm

Finally got around to reading this today. This is pretty fucked up.

Players say ex-Oakland women's basketball coach Beckie Francis fixated on weight, pushed Christianity, used intimidation

http://www.freep.com/article/20130721/SPORTS08/307210081/

Among the greatest hits:
- She forbade players from fraternizing with members of the men's team because sex, I guess.
- Made players go to her church, including one who was Muslim.
- Photographed players in their undergarments to track their physical fitness.
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Re: Athletes behaving badly

Postby Andy » Fri Jul 26, 2013 5:54 am

A former Major League Baseball player went on TV today and admitted to using steroids. The reason our baseball media haven't collapsed onto the national fainting couch is either that Buster Olney is still down there, rolling around and making whimpering noises about Ryan Braun, or that the player in question is Robert Fick.

On Good Day L.A. this morning, Fick said he used steroids twice during his career in order to recover from shoulder injury. Fick, an agent now, was a utility guy for 10 seasons, finishing his career in 2007 with a .258/.328/.405 batting line and 69 home runs. You haven't exactly been robbed of your innocence today. But this is actually important. My guess is that the harder MLB bird-dogs the juicers, the more you'll see guys like Fick emerge, shrugging and saying, yeah, we did this shit, too—a reminder that steroids were a systemic issue involving all kinds of ballplayers, not just an evil indulgence of an elite class of bad apples.

http://deadspin.com/former-mlb-scrub-ad ... -914386565
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Re: Athletes behaving badly

Postby The Suburban Avenger » Wed Aug 14, 2013 6:44 pm

Sports Illustrated did a long, but worthwhile piece about Titus Young today.
The Readers Digest version: He was a cocky kid but determined player who made his bones with big hits using his helmet. As he began to flake out with the Lions, he resisted several offers of help. His former high school coaches and Nate Burleson are the only people quoted extensively, but they paint a picture of a man with some sort of mental disorder so severe he's probably a danger to himself. It's quite sad.

Shit like this is going to keep happening, and eventually American football will become full-fledged human dogfighting. Only the social underclasses, seeking upward mobility, will dare participate and those who know better will fork over loads of dough to watch them pummel each other.

http://mmqb.si.com/2013/08/13/where-is-titus-young/?sct=mmq_hp_readmore
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Re: Athletes behaving badly

Postby The Fickle Finger » Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:31 pm

The Suburban Avenger wrote:Sports Illustrated did a long, but worthwhile piece about Titus Young today.
The Readers Digest version: He was a cocky kid but determined player who made his bones with big hits using his helmet. As he began to flake out with the Lions, he resisted several offers of help. His former high school coaches and Nate Burleson are the only people quoted extensively, but they paint a picture of a man with some sort of mental disorder so severe he's probably a danger to himself. It's quite sad.

Shit like this is going to keep happening, and eventually American football will become full-fledged human dogfighting. Only the social underclasses, seeking upward mobility, will dare participate and those who know better will fork over loads of dough to watch them pummel each other.

http://mmqb.si.com/2013/08/13/where-is-titus-young/?sct=mmq_hp_readmore


The penchant with leading with his helmet when tackling earlier in his career is quite telling. The head injury story seems quite real, and explains a lot of his behavior outside of his normal bragging.
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Re: Athletes behaving badly

Postby Andy » Thu Aug 22, 2013 6:08 am

I spent the 2008 season interning in the sports department of The Detroit News, mainly covering the Tigers (not a bad gig) ...and the Lions.

I was 19 years old, a college sophomore from a liberal arts school. Throughout my five weeks at training camp and preseason games of that utterly defeated season, I was:

1. Told by Kevin Smith that the team would make the Super Bowl that season.

2. Screamed at by Kevin Smith that he "didn't want no fucking bitches" in his locker room with him.

3. Repeatedly asked by Kevin Smith if I had "ever copped a look" while a player was walking around naked, and when I said no, he took off his towel.

4. Forced to sit down for a most awkward "exclusive interview" with Kevin Smith offered to the paper to smooth over his locker room outbursts.

5. Towed from the parking garage at Ford Field... twice.


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Re: Athletes behaving badly

Postby Andy » Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:36 am

Ryan Braun is placing calls to Milwaukee Brewers season ticket holders to apologize for using performance-enhancing drugs and getting suspended as a result, according to a report by CBS58.

Season ticket holder Pat Guenther described how his chat with Braun went:

He picked up the phone thinking it'd be a joke.

"Hey Pat this is Ryan Braun," Guenther recalls. "Right then and there I knew it was his voice based on interviews I've seen on TV. I knew damn well it was his voice."

So he did what anyone in the service industry would do.

"I said what can I do for you? He said, I messed up, in a nutshell, I messed up. I just want to reach out and say I'm sorry. I cut him off right there. I said you know Ryan, I think you're an amazing athlete and this speaks volumes to your character to reach out to a small business owner like myself and let us know that you are going to do better."


http://deadspin.com/report-ryan-braun-p ... 1260727737


P.R. Flack: "Now Ryan, how can we get people to like you again? I think where we start is putting up a front where you seem to have humility. My suggestion is to call small business owners and leverage your celebrity onto star struck fans in order to manipulate the masses."

Ryan Braun: "Cool."
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Re: Athletes behaving badly

Postby Shark » Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:58 pm

Andy wrote:
Ryan Braun is placing calls to Milwaukee Brewers season ticket holders to apologize for using performance-enhancing drugs and getting suspended as a result, according to a report by CBS58.

Season ticket holder Pat Guenther described how his chat with Braun went:

He picked up the phone thinking it'd be a joke.

"Hey Pat this is Ryan Braun," Guenther recalls. "Right then and there I knew it was his voice based on interviews I've seen on TV. I knew damn well it was his voice."

So he did what anyone in the service industry would do.

"I said what can I do for you? He said, I messed up, in a nutshell, I messed up. I just want to reach out and say I'm sorry. I cut him off right there. I said you know Ryan, I think you're an amazing athlete and this speaks volumes to your character to reach out to a small business owner like myself and let us know that you are going to do better."


http://deadspin.com/report-ryan-braun-p ... 1260727737


P.R. Flack: "Now Ryan, how can we get people to like you again? I think where we start is putting up a front where you seem to have humility. My suggestion is to call small business owners and leverage your celebrity onto star struck fans in order to manipulate the masses."

Ryan Braun: "Cool."



Pat Guenther sounds like a huge asshole. I mean, that's some Peter King sized jock-sniffing right there.
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Re: Athletes behaving badly

Postby Andy » Tue Jan 07, 2014 11:57 am

Former NBA star Charles D. Smith says he feels remorse for coming to Pyongyang with Dennis Rodman for a game on the North Korean leader’s birthday because the event has been dwarfed by politics and tainted by Rodman’s own comments.

Smith and other former NBA players are scheduled to play with Rodman against a team of North Koreans on Wednesday that organizers say leader Kim Jong Un is expected to attend. Many of the players on Tuesday privately expressed second thoughts about going ahead because of an outpouring of criticism back home in the United States.

Smith, who played for the New York Knicks, said the North Korea trip has been dwarfed by politics and Rodman’s frequent boasts about his close friendship with Kim.

“What we are doing is positive, but it is getting dwarfed by the other circumstances around it,” Smith told The Associated Press. “Apparently our message is not being conveyed properly due to the circumstances that are much bigger than us, and I think that has to do with politics and government.”

Rodman arrived in Pyongyang on Monday with seven former NBA players and four streetballers for the game on Kim’s birthday, believed to be his 31st. Along with Smith, the squad features ex-All Stars Kenny Anderson, Cliff Robinson and Vin Baker.

The game would be another milestone in Rodman’s surprising relationship with basketball fan Kim, who rarely meets with outsiders and is possibly the world’s most mysterious leader. Rodman has called the game a “birthday present” for Kim but says he has received death threats for his repeated visits to this country and for calling Kim a “friend for life.”

“The way some of the statements and things that Dennis has said has tainted our efforts,” Smith said. “Dennis is a great guy, but how he articulates what goes on — he gets emotional and he says things that he’ll apologize for later.”

NBA Commissioner David Stern has distanced his organization from Rodman’s squad.

“The NBA is not involved with Mr. Rodman’s North Korea trip and would not participate or support such a venture without the approval of the U.S. State Department,” he said in a statement. “Although sports in many instances can be helpful in bridging cultural divides, this is not one of them.”

Rodman is the highest-profile American to meet Kim since the leader inherited power after his father, Kim Jong Il, died in late 2011. He traveled to the North for the first time last February and came back just before Christmas to hold tryouts for the North Korean basketball team, though he did not meet with Kim then.

The plan to hold the game has been criticized because of the North’s human rights record, its development of nuclear weapons and its threats to use them if a conflict breaks out with Washington or Seoul. Rodman, in particular, has been slammed for not trying to use his influence with Kim to secure the release of Kenneth Bae, an American missionary with health problems who is being held in North Korea on charges of “anti-state” crimes.

“I feel bad for Dennis, I feel bad for the players,” Smith said, adding that when he played for the United States in the World Games in 1998 he felt elation.

“I felt huge, I felt on top of the world. But I feel the reverse now,” he said. “I feel a lot of remorse for the guys because we are doing something positive, but it’s a lot bigger than us. We are not naive, we understand why things are being portrayed the way they are. We can’t do anything about that, if we could we would.

“We’re not skilled in those particular areas,” he added. “Dennis is definitely not skilled in those particular areas.”



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Re: Athletes behaving badly

Postby Mud Bug » Wed Jan 08, 2014 8:28 am

Rodman's incoherent and babbling meltdown on CNN was a topic of discussion on both 97.1 and 105.1 yesterday.

It reminded me of his stint on Celebrity Rehab a couple of years back, and how Dr. Drew eventually came to diagnose him with severe Aspergers, and ended treatment when he realized the disconnect was too great.
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Re: Athletes behaving badly

Postby Andy » Thu Jan 09, 2014 6:58 am

Former NBA star Dennis Rodman apologized Thursday for his much-criticized outburst about an American citizen imprisoned in North Korea, saying he was stressed out and had been drinking when he made the remarks on CNN.

The eccentric basketball veteran is in North Korea for a controversial visit that has been rife with bizarre moments, including Rodman's rendition of "Happy Birthday" to the country's leader Kim Jong Un at a packed sports stadium on Wednesday.

In an exclusive interview Tuesday with Chris Cuomo of CNN's "New Day," Rodman provoked outrage by appearing to suggest that Kenneth Bae, who has been held in North Korea since 2012, may have done something to deserve his sentence of 15 years of hard labor.

"I want to first apologize to Kenneth Bae's family," Rodman, 52, said Thursday in a statement released by his publicist Jules Feiler. "I want to apologize to my teammates and my management team. I also want to apologize to Chris Cuomo."

Bae's family had said they were shocked by Rodman's comments about the captive American.

"He was in a position to do some good and to help advocate for Kenneth," Bae's sister, Terri Chung, said Tuesday. "He refused to do so. But then instead he has chosen to hurl these outrageous accusations against Kenneth. He clearly doesn't know anything about Kenneth, about his case. And so we were appalled by that."

Rodman attributed his outburst to stress.

"I embarrassed a lot of people," said Rodman, who traveled to North Korea with other former NBA players for a basketball game against a North Korean team. "I'm very sorry. At this point I should know better than to make political statements. I'm truly sorry."

He said the day of the interview had been "very stressful."

"Some of my teammates were leaving because of pressure from their families and business associates," he said, adding that his dream of "basketball diplomacy was quickly falling apart."

"I had been drinking," he said. "It's not an excuse but by the time the interview happened I was upset. I was overwhelmed."

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/Rodm ... index.html


With his history, this is just par for the course (and his drinking problem isn't new), he wants attention and love and will do anything he can to maintain some semblance of that.

I truly thought he'd be dead by now (suicide, car crash, jumping off a cliff in a wedding dress, whatever). It's kind of amazing he's still alive.
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Re: Athletes behaving badly

Postby Mud Bug » Thu Jan 09, 2014 8:51 am

Andy wrote:With his history, this is just par for the course (and his drinking problem isn't new), he wants attention and love and will do anything he can to maintain some semblance of that.


Howard Stern said the same thing yesterday- basically no one in the U.S. gives two shits about Dennis Rodman so he's drawn to any place where people fawn over him like he's still a superstar.

Stern also said Rodman is no great thinker, so in his mind he probably does believe these trips will lead to a political solution, and he will be seen the hero. I could see how someone with a 75 IQ could conjure up such scenario.

Because Rodman is touched he sorta gets a pass but what about all those other NBA guys? Did Cliff Robinson not read the headlines about Kim Jong Un feeding his uncle to a pack of dogs last month??
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Re: Athletes behaving badly

Postby Mud Bug » Sun Jan 19, 2014 11:23 am

Rodman checks into rehab after N Korea alcohol-fueled meltdown

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2014/01 ... tdown?lite


The fog must've cleared and allowed for a moment of clarity, and The Worm realized he'd become a pawn for the DPRK propaganda machine.
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Re: Athletes behaving badly

Postby The Beav » Sun Jan 19, 2014 11:29 am

Mud Bug wrote:
Rodman checks into rehab after N Korea alcohol-fueled meltdown

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2014/01 ... tdown?lite


The fog must've cleared and allowed for a moment of clarity, and The Worm realized he'd become a pawn for the DPRK propaganda machine.


It was an intervention by his best friend, Kim Jong-un.
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