guest wrote: middle aged female wrote: Andy wrote:
Ya Mar wrote:To celebrate indigenous people's day, I picked up "A People's History..." once again this weekend to really try and get through it. Made it about 30 pages this time before I had to put it back down. I'll keep trying and will report back on progress..
I just finished that a few weeks ago. I found a version that ended in the late 1970s during a visit to John King.
The casual way Columbus and subsequent groups administered death was an eyebrow-raiser. From testing the sharpness of a sword on a random Indian child to cornering the toughest fighters and slaughtering them in front of their families, or giving them a bunch of blankets that were known to be infested with small pox.
Happy Columbus Day.
I should post this on FB where I saw some idiot say something about not being able to celebrate "our history" anymore. I wonder if they'd still be proud to be of the founding class.
I stopped by the post office to check my box but found it closed for Columbus Day. I thought "way to rub salt in a wound".
I read De Las Casas back in high school like the rest of you. But I still am glad Columbus made the trip. None of us would be here, or anywhere for that matter, if he hadn't.
It is all well and good to condemn the Spaniards with modern morality, they did some horrible things. But the mythical "noble savage" that is offered up as the antagonistic counterweight is bothersome. The native Americans, Indians for lack of a better word for the broad group of people occupying North and South America at the time, were not so noble, but very savage. Given the opportunity they would have done to Europe, or Africa, or Asia, just what was done to them. In reality, they were doing it to each other regularly. The Aztecs, Incas, and Mayans- not people you would want to meet on their best day. Have any of you watched The Emperor's New Groove
Don't discount the fact that the Spaniards were coming off of a long culturally crushing occupation by the Mores. They were a highly militarized and their culture celebrated defeating your enemy for the glory of God. Hence all non-Christians were enemies. I don't want to apologize for the behavior of the Spaniards, or French, or British, or Dutch, or Portuguese. I just want to be realistic about the world and man's place in it at that time.
I for one think that the USA, while far from perfect, turned out to be a pretty fucking cool place to spend your 7 or 8 decades on the planet. For that I say, "Thanks Chris".
Sorry, carry on beating on the poor Genoese boy.