Hot Fudge Music

[davecat]

However, just remember how you stand the next time you mock some graffiti artists or urban explorer that defaces the property of an absentee landlord, or somebody who pirates cable, or somebody who has insurance in Oakland County at mom's house, or...

You mean we can't cherry pick which laws we think are OK to break?

[Ya Mar]

However, just remember how you stand the next time you mock some graffiti artists or urban explorer that defaces the property of an absentee landlord, or somebody who pirates cable, or somebody who has insurance in Oakland County at mom's house, or...

You mean we can't cherry pick which laws we think are OK to break?

You totally can. As long as they are cherry picked consistently.

As long as your reasoning behind one being right and one being wrong is consistent.

For instance, removing Miller Lite from a casino and drinking it on an elevated people moving device would be classified in the "victimless" category.

However, sneaking behind a bar and stealing a miller lite would be a crime of property, and would make the perpetrator a thief.

[Woodwards Friend]

The problem with your argument is that it is hard to get someone to pay even a nominal fee for something they are already getting for free. The morality of it aside, the situation is what it is. For the music industry to get upset about it now is like Nevada citizens suddenly being outraged over legalized gambling.

[davecat]

For instance, removing Miller Lite from a casino and drinking it on an elevated people moving device would be classified in the "victimless" category.

I agree that this is totally bad ass.

[Ya Mar]

The problem with your argument is that it is hard to get someone to pay even a nominal fee for something they are already getting for free. The morality of it aside, the situation is what it is. For the music industry to get upset about it now is like Nevada citizens suddenly being outraged over legalized gambling.

Just so everybody knows, this is the most I have thought about work related stuff at work in a long, long time.

At least since the great server hack of the Spring of 07.

The problem with your argument is that the majority of people are still not stealing music.

It is a small minority of the population that are stealing large amounts of music. I believe it was something like 10 million people used a peer to peer service in the past 12 months. And 70 million people bought music in the past 12 months. (Do not quote me on these numbers - and I will try to find my source). And many of the 10 million are also part of the 70 million. So less than 10% of the population is getting music for free.

Why? If it is free, and convenient, and you can't get caught? I believe it is the same reason that most people don't do smash and grabs in Detroit. Because they have respect for the property rights of others. Because they know that taking something that is not given to them by the owner is wrong.

I think for the music industry to get upset now is much more akin to Detroit getting upset at criminals.

"Hey, you let this situation happen. It is your bad leadership. It is your poor governance. It is your lack of foresight. Don't tell me I can't paint on the side of the building. Don't tell me I can't steal those tires. Don't tell me you are going to enforce your laws. You had your chance and you blew it. Anarchy!"

[Putski]

You work?


Where can I get access to all that music for 10 bucks?

A big part of it for me is time. I can hardly muster the trip to the beer store some months let alone flipping through CD bins at the 2 real record stores left in the region.

[Ya Mar]

Both Napster and Rhapsody (I am particularly fond of Napster) have great services in the $10-$15/month range.

With all the money you save not having cable, I think it would be a no brainer.

The issue is you are only "renting" it. Once you quite your subscription the music becomes unplayable.

Also, problem no. 2, is that songs are not transferable to IPods. Microsoft and Real Media based players work fine. But Apple will not license their DRM.

[The Beav]

Both Napster and Rhapsody (I am particularly fond of Napster) have great services in the $10-$15/month range.

With all the money you save not having cable, I think it would be a no brainer.

The issue is you are only "renting" it. Once you quite your subscription the music becomes unplayable.

Also, problem no. 2, is that songs are not transferable to IPods. Microsoft and Real Media based players work fine. But Apple will not license their DRM.

Which is worked around by having a program that will record sound output from your computer into .mp3 format. Just sayin'.

[Putski]

Stealer...

[Cheesis K Reist]

This is by far the most disgusting LP/CD cover I have ever seen. It is by some band called Waco Jesusand it is titled "Commercial Scum:

[Ansel Rakestraw]

Here is a PSA for illegal downloading with Danny Glover.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=oXR4T8xVFdw

[The Beav]

Damn Ansel! Quit posting on this thread! I keep forgetting about that post up there. And I just finished breakfast, too. Urp.

[detroitrulez]

BUMP!!!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[hoog]

Yes, getting back on track...these are two albums I haven't been able to live without...





dhall, how were Cold War Kids at Bonnaroo? You check 'em out? Sexington and I are going to see them in Aug. They money.

[davecat]

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