Sew rank on utilities? In USMCyou don't sew on rank to utilities. Rank insignia is pinned on the collar. big debate now is changing from the matte black to having brushed brass because apparently they are hard to discern on the new digital camouflage (which is probably true and the change is driven by some cranky pouge who got butthurt when some one didn't respect his sloppy ass because his rank wasn't immediately discernible)D-Day wrote:frank - up in grand blanc wrote:D-Day wrote:
NSFW for language
I can't believe this butterball PX Warrior survived this encounter without a serious ass whipping..........The amount of disrespect here is astonishing
And apparently, dude was seen again, this time wearing the patch ensemble (including the Ranger tab) on his right shoulder and the flag upside down and was confronted again resulting in a vet being arrested.. So a bit of clarity, here. First, wearing that flag patch upside down is tantamount to burning it when worn on a uniform. Second unit patches are represented following way (at least when I was in)...I can't imagine it has changed. Current unit and any award tabs (Ranger , Special Forces) worn on the left shoulder. Last unit served in combat on the right, so wearing anything on the right shoulder is also the highest amount of disrespect. These are big fucking deals to anyone who served. The uniform is a big fucking deal.....
I had a situation similar to this in college. Good friend of mine was an E-4 MP in the Reserves and I was an E-5 in the Reserves. We're in Dooley's in East Lansing and MP sees a couple Guardsmen in fatigues and wearing their headgear inside.....Uniform 101 no-no on two levels a.) You're really not supposed to be in the bar in fatigues on a Friday night b.) If you're inside, the hat comes off unless you're under arms. So MP goes down there to tell them to get in uniform or get out and they proceed to tell him to fuck off. Because I still held NCO rank and had my ID card (which is supposed to be in your possession 24-7-365), MP comes back and gets me and I go to the table and plop down the ID card. I ask dudes if they're illegally in possession of a weapon in an establishment that serves alcohol and they tells me no, so I go into the low SGT voice and tell them that need not be disrespecting myself and MP by showing up out of uniform and to un-fucking-cover. Then I notice one of them has a set of (pin on) jump wings (another no-no -- once a paratrooper always a paratrooper so you get those puppies sewn on first chance you get...like before you leave Fort Benning) so I ask what his five points of contact are. When he looks at me funny, I tell him he's no paratroop (it's been thirty years since I went to jump school and I can still you what these five points are), and now you just need to straight up get the fuck out before I get angry, start checking IDs, and figure out how to contact your CO....and they left
I can't believe this Ranger didn't rip that fucker to shreds
Kind of related...
My little guy, the Marine reservist, is sort of an airhead when it comes to details. Things like taxes, and library books. I'm sure that in time he will figure things out, but for now he's not even old enough to drink and still wet behind the ears. So last fall he is fresh home from boot camp and coming up on his first weekend drill. In the course of prepping he's decked out in his camo uni and there are no patches on it. No flag, no unit designation, nothing except maybe his name. I have visions of him getting his ass beat at his very first drill for not being squared away, so I start arguing with him that there must be SOMETHING that's to be sewn on. My wife is worrying all over again and one of the younger guys runs to get me the sewing basket (through some quirk this is my job in the house). But the kid is insistent: “no, I don’t need anything.” I’m like “even when I was in the Webelos we had shit all over our uniforms,” to which he replied “it’s the Army that wears unit patches.”
So there you go. No patches for the Marines.
He would be correct. The Jarheads don't have much on their fatigues. Just name, branch, rank and the USMC logo as I remember. Tell him not to sew that rank on until E-4, though, or people will think he wants to stay that rank
Marines don't have much of anything on any uniform really. Especially as compared with the Army. Good lord, inspections must be ridiculous with all the gee gaws all over the place. Marines... it's just rank, ribbons/medals, weapons quals, jump wings, aviation wings, or scuba bubbles.. and make sure those EGAs are anchors inboard. the only bit of flair that is unusual is that 5th and 6th Marines can wear the French Fourrigere. Also, when I was in, utilities were not authorized for any off base wear other than commuting directly from home to base...no stops allowed. IIRC, that has been relaxed somewhat, but to no where near the level the Army does.
Re: stolen valor type shenanigans, a buddy of mine works for the NFL in NYC. Earlier this summer DeAngelo Williams tweeted out that he gave up his seat to a Marine... ooh rah and all that. My buddy shoots me a text saying something like "hey, check this out... this is blowing up all over the NFL twitters https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hph ... 4841_n.jpg people are saying the guy is a fake.. is this guy a fake?"
There was very little about the guy that was correct. First and foremost the Dress Blue Alphas aren't authorized to just wear whenever. Its the most formal uniform and generally one requires permission or is directed to wear it. If you're going to wear a uniform in transit, it's the Service Alphas(Green uniform). It's like traveling in a white tie and tails vs. business attire. So right there it's fake. Then there is the cover indoors... boot? sure, it happens. a Master Gunnery Sergeant with what looked like at least 21 years of service ? no fucking way. Then you start looking at the medals and the precedence and then no ribbons and the marksmanship badge randomly on there. it's just a whole bag of WTF. It's almost funny. I mean what gets me about these guys is that one could EASILY google all the MCOs, or whatever service you're looking to impersonate's directives, on uniform wear. These are not state secrets and you can order anything on the interwebs. If you're going to go out and buy all that stuff and parade around in it, wouldn't you actually want to pass for legit instead of being confronted and mocked (or beaten) by everyone you come across?
Anyway, I responded to my friend that there is no way this guy is for real. I guess the NFL was all in a tizzy about it at the time. I felt like an insider in a "news" story for about 30 seconds.