Day 1 of Michigan Central Station clean out

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Re: Day 1 of Michigan Central Station clean out

Postby Shark » Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:33 pm

Kind of nice to see all those ernest kids helping out and pitching in, thinking they're making a difference. I bet they feel great.

But the joke will be on them when it gets torn down anyway. Or when Mauser and his hockey playing friends break in. Or when taggers discover the clean slate. Or when the hobos leave their poo in all the now empty corners.
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Re: Day 1 of Michigan Central Station clean out

Postby mcsdetroitfriend » Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:01 pm

lol @ the Sarah Palin photo that had me convinced for a minute!

Here's a new article to answer some questions for you http://thinkdetroit.blogspot.com/2009/0 ... ntral.html
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Re: Day 1 of Michigan Central Station clean out

Postby MICHIGAN » Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:56 am

It has been made an issue of asbestos and I have been told that the building while it does contain asbestos, it is minimal and the amount in the dust is also minimal, though masks are going to become mandatory on this site...but today the Bridge Company was very helpful providing about 6 employees helping clean out the building today


Who wrote this jumble? I love that you guys are breathing asbestos, I'm sure that your parents are psyched as well. Good luck with that, at least the Bridge Company was helpful and exposed their own employees to asbestos dust as well, What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
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Re: Day 1 of Michigan Central Station clean out

Postby Amadeus » Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:48 am

MICHIGAN wrote:
It has been made an issue of asbestos and I have been told that the building while it does contain asbestos, it is minimal and the amount in the dust is also minimal, though masks are going to become mandatory on this site...but today the Bridge Company was very helpful providing about 6 employees helping clean out the building today


Who wrote this jumble? I love that you guys are breathing asbestos, I'm sure that your parents are psyched as well. Good luck with that, at least the Bridge Company was helpful and exposed their own employees to asbestos dust as well, What's good for the goose is good for the gander.


It's not the asbestos dust that would keep me from scooping that shit off the floor. The much higher risk is a severe bacterial infection from all the rodent and bird droppings.
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Re: Day 1 of Michigan Central Station clean out

Postby jmy » Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:28 pm

Meh, the asbestos risk is minimal.
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Re: Day 1 of Michigan Central Station clean out

Postby Megatron » Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:51 pm

Amadeus wrote:
MICHIGAN wrote:
It has been made an issue of asbestos and I have been told that the building while it does contain asbestos, it is minimal and the amount in the dust is also minimal, though masks are going to become mandatory on this site...but today the Bridge Company was very helpful providing about 6 employees helping clean out the building today


Who wrote this jumble? I love that you guys are breathing asbestos, I'm sure that your parents are psyched as well. Good luck with that, at least the Bridge Company was helpful and exposed their own employees to asbestos dust as well, What's good for the goose is good for the gander.


It's not the asbestos dust that would keep me from scooping that shit off the floor. The much higher risk is a severe bacterial infection from all the rodent and bird droppings.


Does it make you go crazy like the cat poop?
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Re: Day 1 of Michigan Central Station clean out

Postby Amadeus » Mon Jul 20, 2009 3:28 pm

Not crazy, but histoplasmosis, with symptoms like the flu, isn't curable. If you get, you've got to be treated for life. It can also cause blindness. Blastomycosis is also not curable, causing lesions on the skin and lungs which spread to the bones, liver, spleen and central nervous system.

There are seven or eight other nasty things, not counting the two or three that require mosquitoes to transmit between birds and humans.

I learned all this when Hamtramck was getting ready to renovate the 3rd floor of City Hall into their court. Some of the rooms had open windows and pigeons roosted in there for 20 years.
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Re: Day 1 of Michigan Central Station clean out

Postby Andy » Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:19 pm

Amadeus wrote:Not crazy, but histoplasmosis, with symptoms like the flu, isn't curable. If you get, you've got to be treated for life. It can also cause blindness. Blastomycosis is also not curable, causing lesions on the skin and lungs which spread to the bones, liver, spleen and central nervous system.

There are seven or eight other nasty things, not counting the two or three that require mosquitoes to transmit between birds and humans.

I learned all this when Hamtramck was getting ready to renovate the 3rd floor of City Hall into their court. Some of the rooms had open windows and pigeons roosted in there for 20 years.


Yuck. This was years ago but when we snuck into the Wurlitzer Building there were pigeons and pigeon shit everywhere. We couldn't stand the top floor because it stunk so bad.
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Re: Day 1 of Michigan Central Station clean out

Postby mcsdetroitfriend » Tue Jul 21, 2009 12:34 am

That's because the Wurlitzer is a relatively sealed building! MCS is very breezy, doesn't smell like anything! But what is surprising is the lack of any bird shit, or any shit for that matter! Though I've probably just jinxed myself and will find a huge turd next time I'm there haha!
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Re: Day 1 of Michigan Central Station clean out

Postby Andy » Thu Jul 23, 2009 6:21 am

Looks like the college kids have some competition.

The Detroit City Council is to hear from Earhart Middle School sixth-graders today as to why the Michigan Central Station should be saved, not demolished.

The students are to give a PowerPoint presentation, complete with their ideas for floor plans.

"This is important to me because the old train station is a very important part of history," said Adam Elkins, 14. "You can turn it into many different things instead of destroying history."

Eighteen Earhart students decided to come up with ways to save the old train station.

In May, a Detroit City Council committee delayed a decision on razing the privately owned landmark. In June, the students started collecting research and learning more about the station. They wrote letters to Preservation Wayne, an organization that works to protect local historic structures.

Even though the train station opened in 1913 and closed in 1988 -- before any of the students were born -- some still say they feel the Central Station is important to the city. The students came up with ideas to get occupants for the building. The students want to make the building into a place where children would stay active, learn and be productive.

"They should turn the train station into multiple places since it's about 18 stories," Elkins said. "In the basement they could have a theater or maybe a swimming pool."

Marcos Valdez, 12, said he wanted the train station to reopen so it could benefit him in the future. "I was thinking about making it into a military training facility," he said.

Timothy McKay, executive director of Greater Corktown Development, said he thinks chances to save the depot may be greater now that people of all ages are involved.

"We are going to use the ideas as a part of our message to whomever," McKay said. "If they see young people and the community wanting to save the train station, it would help."

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Re: Day 1 of Michigan Central Station clean out

Postby The Beav » Thu Jul 23, 2009 10:04 am

I'm betting the 6th graders of Earhart Middle School have been posting on DY for months.
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Re: Day 1 of Michigan Central Station clean out

Postby middle aged female » Thu Jul 23, 2009 10:49 am

The Beav wrote:I'm betting the 6th graders of Earhart Middle School have been posting on DY for months.

I'm betting they quit after they'd been there a couple weeks.
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Re: Day 1 of Michigan Central Station clean out

Postby Heywood McCrakin » Fri Jul 24, 2009 3:33 pm

middle aged female wrote:
The Beav wrote:I'm betting the 6th graders of Earhart Middle School have been posting on DY for months.

I'm betting they quit after they'd been there a couple weeks.


i know that I have been posting alot less, since i started that "Are the suburbs Sustainable" thread

ya know, it was tons of fun making fun of them, but after a while it just gets boring and redundant....
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Postby TYPE OUT! » Sat Jul 25, 2009 11:14 pm

mcsdetroitfriend wrote:Luckily for me I'm not in charge of this effort simply a willing historical adviser. Since the building was constructed in 1912 mesothelioma (sic) shouldn't be an issue, as from what I know of the disease it's borne from asbestos. Mold might be a problem but those of us on the upper floors were required to wear face masks. I realize we're pawns in his game, but a lot of us would prefer to do what we can to help the future of that building. It's pull is hard to ignore and any way to get in to the building I'll take...especially if it's for good.


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We currently are taking a break from interior work due to MIOSHA concerns about lead and asbestos in the building, however we will be doing exterior work starting pretty soon, then Home Depot will be helping us tear out the window.


well, how bout that? who knew?!!! Only everyone.
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Postby Ansel Rakestraw » Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:04 am

TYPE OUT! wrote:
mcsdetroitfriend wrote:Luckily for me I'm not in charge of this effort simply a willing historical adviser. Since the building was constructed in 1912 mesothelioma (sic) shouldn't be an issue, as from what I know of the disease it's borne from asbestos. Mold might be a problem but those of us on the upper floors were required to wear face masks. I realize we're pawns in his game, but a lot of us would prefer to do what we can to help the future of that building. It's pull is hard to ignore and any way to get in to the building I'll take...especially if it's for good.


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We currently are taking a break from interior work due to MIOSHA concerns about lead and asbestos in the building, however we will be doing exterior work starting pretty soon, then Home Depot will be helping us tear out the window.


well, how bout that? who knew?!!! Only everyone.


Any building in Detroit built prior to 1989 has a moderate to high risk for asbestos contamination, even building's built in the 1700's as modern materials were retrofitted in. Pipewrap, linoleum mastics, flooring felt, floorfing felt, floor tiles, millboard , cement shingles and on and on.

Exposed, decaying pipewrap is seen all over photos of the MCS.

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