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Re: Xenophobic/Racist PDJ

Postby frank - up in grand blanc » Thu Nov 08, 2012 12:09 pm

Doctor Detroit wrote:
frank - up in grand blanc wrote:If the state really wants to help Detroit then they'll do the following:

-dynamite the MacArthur Bridge so that nobody can get to the island, i.e. city can no longer piss away resources on it
-state uses resources it would have invested into Belle Isle to set up a socialization/re-education camp
-MSP rounds up as many lumpen prols as aforementioned camp can accomodate
-12 to 24 months later the camp graduates a cohort of refomed Detroiters, and another class begins


Just don't teach them marketing, they need to come out useful to society.


I agree, which is why I trained as a social scientist.

Original post was political, btw, not racism.
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Re: Xenophobic/Racist PDJ

Postby Doctor Detroit » Thu Nov 08, 2012 12:28 pm

frank - up in grand blanc wrote:
Doctor Detroit wrote:
frank - up in grand blanc wrote:If the state really wants to help Detroit then they'll do the following:

-dynamite the MacArthur Bridge so that nobody can get to the island, i.e. city can no longer piss away resources on it
-state uses resources it would have invested into Belle Isle to set up a socialization/re-education camp
-MSP rounds up as many lumpen prols as aforementioned camp can accomodate
-12 to 24 months later the camp graduates a cohort of refomed Detroiters, and another class begins


Just don't teach them marketing, they need to come out useful to society.


I agree, which is why I trained as a social scientist.

Original post was political, btw, not racism.


You're the one who posted it in this thread. Phrank? Or perhaps Phreudian Phrank?
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Re: Xenophobic/Racist PDJ

Postby frank - up in grand blanc » Thu Nov 08, 2012 12:38 pm

Doctor Detroit wrote:
frank - up in grand blanc wrote:
Doctor Detroit wrote:
frank - up in grand blanc wrote:If the state really wants to help Detroit then they'll do the following:

-dynamite the MacArthur Bridge so that nobody can get to the island, i.e. city can no longer piss away resources on it
-state uses resources it would have invested into Belle Isle to set up a socialization/re-education camp
-MSP rounds up as many lumpen prols as aforementioned camp can accomodate
-12 to 24 months later the camp graduates a cohort of refomed Detroiters, and another class begins


Just don't teach them marketing, they need to come out useful to society.


I agree, which is why I trained as a social scientist.

Original post was political, btw, not racism.


You're the one who posted it in this thread. Phrank? Or perhaps Phreudian Phrank?

Ah, I see. Hmm. Someone else introduced the topic of Belle Isle and I added the snark of a hybrid solution that channeled practical Maoism and the French Revolution.
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Re: Xenophobic/Racist PDJ

Postby MICHIGAN » Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:42 am

On the thread talking about how you can not buy a home in Detroit, because they are moving too fast! The market is red hot, and Detoit's own G has an explanation!

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^^ I agree. I've seen houses listed for 25k 6-8 months ago that are now listed for 80k+. Looks to me like carpetbagging is in full swing. Anyone seen the tourbuses full of asians lately?
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Re: Xenophobic/Racist PDJ

Postby The Beav » Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:15 pm

Anyone else hear the Gary Brown interview about Belle Isle being run by the state on WWJ? I can't find the transcript or a related article. When talking about the DNR officers that would be policing the island Brown said something along the lines of having hired thousands of police officers, he knows the people from up North that only come to Detroit to hockey games are going to need sensitiviy training to learn how to deal properly with the people from Detroit.
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Re: Xenophobic/Racist PDJ

Postby Amadeus » Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:09 am

The Beav wrote:Anyone else hear the Gary Brown interview about Belle Isle being run by the state on WWJ? I can't find the transcript or a related article. When talking about the DNR officers that would be policing the island Brown said something along the lines of having hired thousands of police officers, he knows the people from up North that only come to Detroit to hockey games are going to need sensitiviy training to learn how to deal properly with the people from Detroit.


I didn't hear him on the radio, but he's been beating that horse since the lease proposal was first presented in September.
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Re: Xenophobic/Racist PDJ

Postby Morty » Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:54 am

Amadeus wrote:
The Beav wrote:Anyone else hear the Gary Brown interview about Belle Isle being run by the state on WWJ? I can't find the transcript or a related article. When talking about the DNR officers that would be policing the island Brown said something along the lines of having hired thousands of police officers, he knows the people from up North that only come to Detroit to hockey games are going to need sensitiviy training to learn how to deal properly with the people from Detroit.


I didn't hear him on the radio, but he's been beating that horse since the lease proposal was first presented in September.


They will require traning in the disfunction=normal Detroit style, obviously.
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Re: Xenophobic/Racist PDJ

Postby I only say fuck you » Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:41 pm

the people from up North that only come to Detroit to hockey games are going to need sensitiviy training to learn how to deal properly with the people from Detroit.


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Re: Xenophobic/Racist PDJ

Postby The Conscience » Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:00 pm

The Beav wrote:Anyone else hear the Gary Brown interview about Belle Isle being run by the state on WWJ? I can't find the transcript or a related article. When talking about the DNR officers that would be policing the island Brown said something along the lines of having hired thousands of police officers, he knows the people from up North that only come to Detroit to hockey games are going to need sensitiviy training to learn how to deal properly with the people from Detroit.


I happen to know a DNR Park Ranger who works at one of the busy state parks on Lake Michigan. He's a more a jack-of-all-trades than a cop; one day he's cleaning the shitters and the next he's painting picnic tables. He was telling me they have very limited powers (park rules only, like littering, picking the flowers, etc.) and only carry pepper spray, in case they run across a rabid possum or a pushy drunk in the campground. They aren't certified peace officers like Conservation Officers, who are too busy enforcing fish and game laws to spend much time in the parks, other than the occasional ride thru. When something serious happens, they stay a safe distance away and wait for a sheriff's deputy to arrive. His take is the state didn't want the liability and training costs associated with employing peace officers, so they do it this way, which in my opinion puts their people at risk. Either give them all the tools and training, or give them none, because when you're in it for a penny, you're in it for a pound.

Point is Mr. Brown shouldn't be concerned about park rangers abusing Detroiters; he should be concerned about Detroiters abusing park rangers.
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Re: Xenophobic/Racist PDJ

Postby guest » Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:53 pm

March 9, 2013 at 9:26 am
Race Card Project comes to University of Michigan
By Associated Press

Ann Arbor — University of Michigan says it's the first university to take part in a project aimed at fostering conversations about race...


I like how they named the project after the term used by the majority culture to dismiss black's complaints of racism.
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Re: Xenophobic/Racist PDJ

Postby frank - up in grand blanc » Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:21 pm

^what jug head would even presume to sling that nonsense? Not Guest's observation (which is pretty awesome) but the claim of "first university...conversing on race." "First" as in "never before"? My ass. Somebody should send a note to U of M's pr flack and provide a synopsis of the 60s, student movements, and subsequent university reforms. Oh, and universities being on the leading edge of affirmative action, too.
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Re: Xenophobic/Racist PDJ

Postby Andy » Mon Apr 29, 2013 5:34 am

After four years of increasing tensions between some Christian missionaries and local Muslims, the annual Arab International Festival in Dearborn is being moved from a street that has open access to a public park that could restrict admission to paid attendees.

Dearborn Mayor Jack O’Reilly said Friday that the city plans to shift the festival — the biggest annual outdoor gathering of Arab Americans in the U.S. — from Warren Avenue to Ford Woods Park, near the corner of Ford and Greenfield roads. One of the reasons for the move is liability concerns; the city has been hit with lawsuits from some Christian missionaries alleging their free speech rights were curtailed at the festival.

“Considering everything we’ve been through and what happened in the past,” said O’Reilly, the city wanted a place “where you can have a controlled site.”

The 18-year-old festival, held in June by the American Arab Chamber of Commerce, promotes Arab-American culture and business along Warren Avenue. Fay Baydoun, executive director of the chamber, said Friday that the group is working with the city on negotiating a price to rent out the park for the three-day festival planned for June 15-17.

There could be an admission fee to enter the park for the festival, which includes carnival games, amusement park rides and numerous vendor booths on Arab-American culture.

The festival has long had Christian missionaries in attendance, and there weren’t any tensions in the past. However, that changed in 2009 after aggressive new groups of missionaries started to arrive. That year, some yelled at festival-goers “that they were going to hell because they were Muslim,” according to a Dearborn police report. Some also brought video cameras and recorded their encounters, which they posted online, sparking complaints about Dearborn’s Muslim population.

The tensions resulted in some Christian missionaries being escorted out. The next year, a group of them were arrested. They were later acquitted after a trial and have filed a lawsuit against the city. Other Christian groups also have filed a lawsuit, saying their First Amendment rights were restricted. Some have said that treatment at the festival proves that Dearborn is under sharia, Islamic law, a claim the mayor repeatedly has dismissed as ludicrous.

The Wayne County Sheriff’s Office has handled security at the event the past two years. The Dearborn Police Department is expected to handle it this year, O’Reilly said.

The tensions escalated last year after a group called the Bible Believers brought a pig’s head mounted on a pole along with signs that denigrated Islam and its prophet, Mohammed, in explicit terms. Observant Muslims consider pigs to be dirty.

In response, some children got upset and a few hurled objects, including water bottles, at them.

O’Reilly said free speech must be respected, but he’s concerned that some groups were trying to provoke young children at the festival with outrageous words and signs.

“We’re not going to tolerate people insulting children, making gross statements ... antagonizing children,” he said. “We’re going to make sure kids behave. But we’re also going to make sure that adults behave. Everybody’s got to behave.”

In the past, “no one had any problems,” at the festival, O’Reilly said. But over the past few years, “it became a target for people who have a different agenda. They weren’t here in the spirit of the festival.”

Imad Hamad, regional director of the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee and a Dearborn resident, said he supports the move, noting that the Warren Avenue location sometimes got congested.

Majed Moughni, a Dearborn attorney and activist, said he also supports the move. But he said that festival-goers could continue to face hostile speech from some missionaries.

“They can still stand on the city’s sidewalks ... or in front of the entrance,” said Moughni, who disagreed with the police arrest of missionaries in 2010. “You can’t violate someone’s free speech.”

http://www.freep.com/article/20130429/N ... val-moving


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Re: Xenophobic/Racist PDJ

Postby Ya Mar » Mon May 06, 2013 6:24 pm

Andy wrote:
After four years of increasing tensions between some Christian missionaries and local Muslims, the annual Arab International Festival in Dearborn is being moved from a street that has open access to a public park that could restrict admission to paid attendees.

Dearborn Mayor Jack O’Reilly said Friday that the city plans to shift the festival — the biggest annual outdoor gathering of Arab Americans in the U.S. — from Warren Avenue to Ford Woods Park, near the corner of Ford and Greenfield roads. One of the reasons for the move is liability concerns; the city has been hit with lawsuits from some Christian missionaries alleging their free speech rights were curtailed at the festival.

“Considering everything we’ve been through and what happened in the past,” said O’Reilly, the city wanted a place “where you can have a controlled site.”

The 18-year-old festival, held in June by the American Arab Chamber of Commerce, promotes Arab-American culture and business along Warren Avenue. Fay Baydoun, executive director of the chamber, said Friday that the group is working with the city on negotiating a price to rent out the park for the three-day festival planned for June 15-17.

There could be an admission fee to enter the park for the festival, which includes carnival games, amusement park rides and numerous vendor booths on Arab-American culture.

The festival has long had Christian missionaries in attendance, and there weren’t any tensions in the past. However, that changed in 2009 after aggressive new groups of missionaries started to arrive. That year, some yelled at festival-goers “that they were going to hell because they were Muslim,” according to a Dearborn police report. Some also brought video cameras and recorded their encounters, which they posted online, sparking complaints about Dearborn’s Muslim population.

The tensions resulted in some Christian missionaries being escorted out. The next year, a group of them were arrested. They were later acquitted after a trial and have filed a lawsuit against the city. Other Christian groups also have filed a lawsuit, saying their First Amendment rights were restricted. Some have said that treatment at the festival proves that Dearborn is under sharia, Islamic law, a claim the mayor repeatedly has dismissed as ludicrous.

The Wayne County Sheriff’s Office has handled security at the event the past two years. The Dearborn Police Department is expected to handle it this year, O’Reilly said.

The tensions escalated last year after a group called the Bible Believers brought a pig’s head mounted on a pole along with signs that denigrated Islam and its prophet, Mohammed, in explicit terms. Observant Muslims consider pigs to be dirty.

In response, some children got upset and a few hurled objects, including water bottles, at them.

O’Reilly said free speech must be respected, but he’s concerned that some groups were trying to provoke young children at the festival with outrageous words and signs.

“We’re not going to tolerate people insulting children, making gross statements ... antagonizing children,” he said. “We’re going to make sure kids behave. But we’re also going to make sure that adults behave. Everybody’s got to behave.”

In the past, “no one had any problems,” at the festival, O’Reilly said. But over the past few years, “it became a target for people who have a different agenda. They weren’t here in the spirit of the festival.”

Imad Hamad, regional director of the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee and a Dearborn resident, said he supports the move, noting that the Warren Avenue location sometimes got congested.

Majed Moughni, a Dearborn attorney and activist, said he also supports the move. But he said that festival-goers could continue to face hostile speech from some missionaries.

“They can still stand on the city’s sidewalks ... or in front of the entrance,” said Moughni, who disagreed with the police arrest of missionaries in 2010. “You can’t violate someone’s free speech.”

http://www.freep.com/article/20130429/N ... val-moving


Classy.


that had them converting in droves. Nothing says Jesus loves you better than a pig head next to a poster board saying Mohammed was an arab bastard...
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Re: Xenophobic/Racist PDJ

Postby Shark » Fri May 24, 2013 11:23 am

Hmmmm....maybe I should be a large map of metro Detroit for on my wall, so I better know the relationship of my city and the suburbs. - Supersport
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Re: Xenophobic/Racist PDJ

Postby Mulligan » Fri May 24, 2013 11:55 am



Trump does make a good point.


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