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[Woodwards Friend]

Was Detroit really a "lovely town" in 1972?

[Andy]

Was Detroit really a "lovely town" in 1972?

It's a lovely town to leave.

[Dead Ed]

Was Detroit really a "lovely town" in 1972?

You should've seen it in 1872. Big steaming piles of horse shit everywhere one looked, clouds of fat black flies in every kitchen, your six-year-old brother dying of some untreatable disease in the corner bedroom, and your choice of taking a shit on a subzero night in either the backyard outhouse or the "honey pot" inside the closet.

Memories. Distant water-colored memories....

[Dead Ed]

As far as 1972 goes...well, any Richard Roundtree or Pam Grier movie will do.

[guest]

Was Detroit really a "lovely town" in 1972?

Seriously, it wasn't a great place to live but you could actually go there and buy something at a store back then and if you had a doctor, dentist or barber odds were that one or more of them had an office downtown or in the Fisher Building.

[The Conscience]

Was Detroit really a "lovely town" in 1972?

Compared to today, yes.

The 80,000 abandoned buildings of today were mostly occupied. Now boarded-up churches and schools of were hubs of activity and anchors of neighborhoods. Those crumbling husks of brick and mortar which line Gratiot and Mack and all the arteries housed small businesses providing a middle class life for thousands of families. Coleman Young was still in Lansing. Crack was a decade away. Yes there were seedy parts of town and the gaining emergence of a ghetto subculture (read a Donald Goines book if you want to learn how Detroit influenced the embrionics of this unique social phenom), but the dynamics that caused the following decades of entropy were only beginning to take shape.

I know it is difficult to comprehend given how things have looked for a long time, but put on a pair of rose colored glasses and imagine a thriving and vibrant city, where the schools were among the best in the country, the police had control of the criminals, and employment was easily gained.

[frank - up in grand blanc]

Was Detroit really a "lovely town" in 1972?

Compared to today, yes.

The 80,000 abandoned buildings of today were mostly occupied. Now boarded-up churches and schools of were hubs of activity and anchors of neighborhoods. Those crumbling husks of brick and mortar which line Gratiot and Mack and all the arteries housed small businesses providing a middle class life for thousands of families. Coleman Young was still in Lansing. Crack was a decade away. Yes there were seedy parts of town and the gaining emergence of a ghetto subculture (read a Donald Goines book if you want to learn how Detroit influenced the embrionics of this unique social phenom), but the dynamics that caused the following decades of entropy were only beginning to take shape.

I know it is difficult to comprehend given how things have looked for a long time, but put on a pair of rose colored glasses and imagine a thriving and vibrant city, where the schools were among the best in the country, the police had control of the criminals, and employment was easily gained.

That's the way that I remember 1972. An underscore on that memory are Andy's tours under the Pictures section. For sure there was a lot of nastiness in '72, but odds are good that the disheveled and empty streetscapes pictured were vibrant and more than livable.

[davecat]

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Username: Dsexyvette
Post Number: 1
Registered: 01-2009
Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 9:13 am:

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A TRIBUTE TO MY FRIEND, DELL WARNER...
Unique, robust, outgoing, energetic, inspiring, a bit sad, simply beautiful (from the inside out)…these are just a few adjectives to describe a remarkable woman I am so privileged to call my friend…Ms. Dell Warner.

(BACKGROUND):

I met Dell while I was volunteering giving free manicures at the Teitel Jewish Apartments in Oak Park, an assisted living high-rise facility to the senior citizens. Dell (very enthusiastically I might add) came over to the table I was working at and struck up a conversation. I immediately recognized this woman as the producer for WDIV Channel 4 “Coming of Age” program. She was a celebrity who was coming over to talk to me! I truly felt honored. I advised Dell I recognized her and she was very modest and wanted no credit for her accomplishments as a wonderful producer. Dell wanted to talk to me about my life and why I did volunteer work and did not want to talk about herself. We spoke for hours that day and ever since…we have become friends.

This article is being written as a follow-up to an article I wrote several years ago that I was fortunate enough to have published by the Jewish News. The article was about cherishing your loved ones and telling them how much they mean to you before it’s too late. I could not think of a more special person (whom I have not told yet in so many words but I have told) how much I appreciate her and admire her and love her. Dell has taught me so much, I cannot begin to describe it in this short article. This amazing lady goes out of her way to make a difference. She expects no credit for same. Dell has fourth stage cancer. She is 84 years young. She does not dwell on the cancer but, instead, purposely pushes herself to make a difference and gives all she can. For example, recently, Dell embarked on a huge project. She put on THE most incredible art show at the Teitel Jewish Apartments. Dell initiated this gigantic feat by herself and at times, despite the exceptionally frustrating and troubling things that arose along the way, Dell never gave up. She started this art exhibit and she was going to finish same no matter what crossed her path.

Dell finished this art exhibit and it was truly incredible. The residents of the Teitel Jewish Apartments (and outsiders) had never seen such a display. They loved it! Again, Dell never gave up. This is the woman I admire. Dell never got any real credit for this enormous project but a little article written by a local paper. She never asked for anything as well.

On Christmas day, I was fortunate enough to visit the residents of the Teitel Jewish Apartments where I gave the fr ee manicures to the senior citizens. Dell sat next to me, right by my side, and we commiserated that morning/afternoon. We talked about many things yet I sensed Dell was in pain due to her cancer. She never once complained. Instead, she tormented me (lovingly, of course) about the style of my hair (or lack of!), the color of my lipstick (or lack of!) and a few other unmentionables. She then told me what a wonderful person I was and how proud my parents must be. The truth is, Dell Warner is the special person; one who people look up to, admire and use as a role model. Dell doesn’t realize this, but maybe after reading this article, she will. There is one person out there who thinks SHE is an amazing woman; a beautiful person (inside and out) who says it like it is, means it, and most importantly, truly makes a difference. This woman shines such a bright light in an otherwise sometimes dull atmosphere. She lights up a room just by walking in it. Her personality (while at times a bit overwhelming!)20is one-of-a-kind.

I am so lucky to call Dell Warner my friend and I can only hope she knows how much she means to me. To follow my own advice, I let Dell know how much she means to me and how special she is. She doesn’t need this article to reinforce same but I can guarantee as Ms. Warner read this, through the tears, she will know. I love you Dell.

[Brenda Warner]

Warners (in order of importance):

Me





Kurt


















































































Dell

[chad sexington]

What about Cindy?

[ChefBinky]

What, the Warner Bros. get ranked below old Dell?

[Doctor Detroit]

Stikine
Member
Username: Stikine

Post Number: 1
Registered: 01-2009

Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 1:27 pm:

It is ridiculous to read the posts attacking the messenger of a well-written piece of news.
News comes to us in a variety of ways, and these ways change with us.

So, you do not like the way the story is written? Don't read it! It seems ridiculous to me to attack LeDuff when he is reporting on what is going on in this city, the people in this city in a new and creative way.

The frozen man story needed to be on the front page,...this is our city! Shit happens like this and we need to get better as a city.

[Dead Ed]

This LeDuff guy sure seems to have an unusually loyal following on DY---and most of them are first-time or low-number posters. Some ball-licker is always breathlessly praising or excessively defending whatever the fuck he's just written. He must come from a large family or use 3 or 4 different IP addys.

[wolf]

Dclement
Member
Username: Dclement

Post Number: 1
Registered: 02-2009

Posted on Tuesday, February 03, 2009 - 5:54 pm:
Does anyone remember Stella of Greek Town?

Here's his second post, in a different thread:

Dclement
Member
Username: Dclement

Post Number: 2
Registered: 02-2009

Posted on Tuesday, February 03, 2009 - 5:54 pm:
Does anyone remember Stella of Greek Town?

I love DY.

[MICHIGAN]

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Terrikeeler
Member
Username: Terrikeeler

Post Number: 1
Registered: 02-2009

Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2009 - 12:02 am:

I'm looking to find and old bike shop from the 70's to maybe late 80's ? It was run by Bobby Moore and "Bo". I been up and down Cass and can't recall. I got 3 addresses and don't know if any of them are good. 2234,3535, and 3530 Cass. The apartment across the street was torn down, so I can't find it. Been too long now. Any one know ? Thanks.

This thread just gets stranger and stranger. Especially since Terri Keeler acts as if she has never heard of the relationship. Meanwhile she's posting on other websites about how these guys are innocent and that they should be left alone.

What's her game?

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