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Re: Gunplay in Detroit

Postby guest » Sun Oct 19, 2014 11:30 am

Sterile Whites 48313 wrote:
The Suburban Avenger wrote:One of the TV news foofs is tweeting the shooting happened after two girls at Denby HS got into a Facebook fight.


GO TARS!


More reporting reveals that Dad shot one of the thugs before the Tech-9 came out, the honor students are well into their 20's, and 17 year old daughter/sister is a little bit pregnant. Detroit Rises.
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Re: Gunplay in Detroit

Postby The Suburban Avenger » Tue Dec 23, 2014 3:58 pm

This must've been a helluva buzz kill for anyone enjoying a smoke outside the Tap Room:

Police believe a gunman was targeting the four teens who were shot as they sat inside a car in a desolate area on Detroit's east side Monday night.

A 16-year-old Grosse Pointe Woods girl was killed and three other teens were wounded when a man armed with what was believed to be an assault rifle fired up to 30 rounds into their parked car about 9:15 p.m. A fifth teen escaped injury in the attack.

Detroit Police Chief James Craig today said the attack "does not appear to be random."

"There are some other dimensions of this that we know about that I can't go into at this point," he said.


I'm going to go with "they pissed off the guy they bought the weed (or something worse) from."

Craig said police have had conversations with the one teen who was not struck by gunfire.

He said the last report he received on the three injured teens was that they were recovering. Craig called the shooting "tragic."

The wounded teens were a 16-year-old female, a 16-year-old male and a 15-year-old male.

Police say the teens were smoking marijuana in a car on Philip near Charlevoix, just three blocks from Detroit's border with Grosse Pointe Park.

"A vehicle pulled in front of them, the driver got out of the passenger side and fired several shots," Detroit police spokesman Adam Madera said, adding that crime-scene investigators found 25 to 30 shell casings.

Investigators were initially told the gunman was wearing Army-style fatigues and possibly body armor, but police say they have gotten conflicting statements about what happened.

The victims initially told police they were looking for the brother of one of the passengers and had pulled over in the area of Charlevoix and Philip when the attack occurred. But their statements appear to be in conflict.

"They're scared to tell their parents what they're doing" in Detroit, Assistant Police Chief Steve Dolunt said today.

He said it appeared the teens may have made earlier stops to buy marijuana and to buy something at a gas station before parking. The shooting could've been connected with drugs or road rage, Dolunt said.

"All their statements don't seem to be meshing," Madera said of the teens.

A spokeswoman at University Liggett School in Grosse Pointe Woods confirmed this morning that the dead girl was a student there.

"As you can imagine, we are heartbroken over the death of one of our students, and our thoughts and prayers go out to her family and friends and to the entire Liggett community during this very difficult time," said Michelle Franzen Martin, director of Marketing and Communications.

Harold Meeks, editor of the blog TellusDetroit.com, lives nearby and said he heard a fully-automatic weapon fired Monday night. He said the noise was so rapid, he first thought it was fireworks.

Then he heard it again.

"You can't pull a trigger that fast," Meeks said.
Three teens are in critical condition at Beaumont HospitalBuy Photo

Camaro Newsom, 46, lives on the same block where the teens were shot.

He was lying in bed when he heard several bursts of gunfire at about 9 p.m., followed by sounds of cars speeding away. He said he thought he heard two different guns.

"I figured somebody was just shooting," Newsom said, adding that he frequently hears shots fired in the neighborhood. "A lot of people got guns around here."

He said it's terrible and sad that the teens were shot.

Police describe the suspect as a black man, about 6 feet tall, wearing a black hat and army fatigues driving a tan vehicle, possibly a Cadillac.

After the shooting, one of the teens drove the others about 2.5 miles to Beaumont Hospital on Cadieux in Grosse Pointe.

Dolunt said he hopes police get "a straight story" from the teens.

"The kids in Grosse Pointe -- they think it can't happen to them," he said. "People shouldn't blame the people in Detroit; your kids are buying drugs there."
http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2014/12/23/grosse-pointe-farms-shooting-lower-east-side/20798333/


A pretty shitty dig by the cop, but, still.
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Re: Gunplay in Detroit

Postby middle aged female » Tue Dec 23, 2014 4:35 pm

The Suburban Avenger wrote:This must've been a helluva buzz kill for anyone enjoying a smoke outside the Tap Room:

Police believe a gunman was targeting the four teens who were shot as they sat inside a car in a desolate area on Detroit's east side Monday night.

A 16-year-old Grosse Pointe Woods girl was killed and three other teens were wounded when a man armed with what was believed to be an assault rifle fired up to 30 rounds into their parked car about 9:15 p.m. A fifth teen escaped injury in the attack.

Detroit Police Chief James Craig today said the attack "does not appear to be random."

"There are some other dimensions of this that we know about that I can't go into at this point," he said.


I'm going to go with "they pissed off the guy they bought the weed (or something worse) from."

Craig said police have had conversations with the one teen who was not struck by gunfire.

He said the last report he received on the three injured teens was that they were recovering. Craig called the shooting "tragic."

The wounded teens were a 16-year-old female, a 16-year-old male and a 15-year-old male.

Police say the teens were smoking marijuana in a car on Philip near Charlevoix, just three blocks from Detroit's border with Grosse Pointe Park.

"A vehicle pulled in front of them, the driver got out of the passenger side and fired several shots," Detroit police spokesman Adam Madera said, adding that crime-scene investigators found 25 to 30 shell casings.

Investigators were initially told the gunman was wearing Army-style fatigues and possibly body armor, but police say they have gotten conflicting statements about what happened.

The victims initially told police they were looking for the brother of one of the passengers and had pulled over in the area of Charlevoix and Philip when the attack occurred. But their statements appear to be in conflict.

"They're scared to tell their parents what they're doing" in Detroit, Assistant Police Chief Steve Dolunt said today.

He said it appeared the teens may have made earlier stops to buy marijuana and to buy something at a gas station before parking. The shooting could've been connected with drugs or road rage, Dolunt said.

"All their statements don't seem to be meshing," Madera said of the teens.

A spokeswoman at University Liggett School in Grosse Pointe Woods confirmed this morning that the dead girl was a student there.

"As you can imagine, we are heartbroken over the death of one of our students, and our thoughts and prayers go out to her family and friends and to the entire Liggett community during this very difficult time," said Michelle Franzen Martin, director of Marketing and Communications.

Harold Meeks, editor of the blog TellusDetroit.com, lives nearby and said he heard a fully-automatic weapon fired Monday night. He said the noise was so rapid, he first thought it was fireworks.

Then he heard it again.

"You can't pull a trigger that fast," Meeks said.
Three teens are in critical condition at Beaumont HospitalBuy Photo

Camaro Newsom, 46, lives on the same block where the teens were shot.

He was lying in bed when he heard several bursts of gunfire at about 9 p.m., followed by sounds of cars speeding away. He said he thought he heard two different guns.

"I figured somebody was just shooting," Newsom said, adding that he frequently hears shots fired in the neighborhood. "A lot of people got guns around here."

He said it's terrible and sad that the teens were shot.

Police describe the suspect as a black man, about 6 feet tall, wearing a black hat and army fatigues driving a tan vehicle, possibly a Cadillac.

After the shooting, one of the teens drove the others about 2.5 miles to Beaumont Hospital on Cadieux in Grosse Pointe.

Dolunt said he hopes police get "a straight story" from the teens.

"The kids in Grosse Pointe -- they think it can't happen to them," he said. "People shouldn't blame the people in Detroit; your kids are buying drugs there."
http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2014/12/23/grosse-pointe-farms-shooting-lower-east-side/20798333/


A pretty shitty dig by the cop, but, still.
They probably could've scored whatever they're looking for at My Dad's.

What about the kids in Harper Woods, or West Bloomfield, or Indian Village; do they think it can happen to them? No, they don't; it's part of being a kid. They think they're invincible.
Normally I side with cops, but that's a pretty douchebaggy thing to say. Here it is 2 days before Christmas and somebodies parents are arranging a funeral. That sucks in any community.

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Re: Gunplay in Detroit

Postby The Suburban Avenger » Tue Dec 23, 2014 9:33 pm

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume it was a response to a string of stupid questions along the line of "But they were from Grosse Pointe ..."

When I first read the story, I found myself thinking about the girl who was shot dead on the front porch in Dearborn Heights: Just a kid, and the dumbest thing she ever did ended was the last thing she ever did.

That's gotta suck for the parents of both dead girls, not to mention the kids who were lucky enough to survive the shooting.
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Re: Gunplay in Detroit

Postby thunderstruck » Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:02 pm

The Suburban Avenger wrote:I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume it was a response to a string of stupid questions along the line of "But they were from Grosse Pointe ..."

When I first read the story, I found myself thinking about the girl who was shot dead on the front porch in Dearborn Heights: Just a kid, and the dumbest thing she ever did ended was the last thing she ever did.

That's gotta suck for the parents of both dead girls, not to mention the kids who were lucky enough to survive the shooting.

The last thing I read before stopping by HFD was an article on DeadlineDetroit.com about the shooting.
http://deadlinedetroit.com/articles/111 ... s_is_harsh
The author ran the story by a few Detroit-area friends, and one said “Wrong of an Assistant Chief to say that. I'm guessing it came after several dumb, but 'the kids were from Grosse Pointe' questions from reporters.”

Hmmm... coinkydink? I think not. :)

On topic, what a crappy thing to have happen. I didn't live close enough to Detroit back in my youth to do exactly what the GP teens did, but there for the grace of God go I. I can't imagine what they did to bring upon them a hail of automatic weapon fire.
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Re: Gunplay in Detroit

Postby Shark » Tue Dec 23, 2014 11:29 pm

The DYes thread about this is not to be missed.
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Re: Gunplay in Detroit

Postby The Beav » Wed Dec 24, 2014 11:16 am

Shark wrote:The DYes thread about this is not to be missed.


5 pages of crap with a post by Lowell threatening to ban the jackanapes.
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Re: Gunplay in Detroit

Postby guest » Wed Dec 24, 2014 11:59 am

The Beav wrote:
Shark wrote:The DYes thread about this is not to be missed.


5 pages of crap with a post by Lowell threatening to ban the jackanapes.


I didn't make it through the first page.
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Re: Gunplay in Detroit

Postby middle aged female » Wed Dec 24, 2014 12:03 pm

The Beav wrote:
Shark wrote:The DYes thread about this is not to be missed.


5 pages of crap with a post by Lowell threatening to ban the jackanapes.


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Give it a rest people. A young girl with a promising future is dead. Others wounded. Kids do stupid things all the time. I have ny conjectures but reality is people were harmed. This is Christmas Eve, let go the divide. Peace on earth and goodwill should reign today.

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Re: Gunplay in Detroit

Postby The Beav » Wed Dec 24, 2014 3:13 pm

guest wrote:
The Beav wrote:
Shark wrote:The DYes thread about this is not to be missed.


5 pages of crap with a post by Lowell threatening to ban the jackanapes.


I didn't make it through the first page.


I started at the end.
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Re: Gunplay in Detroit

Postby Stosh Kielbasa » Wed Dec 24, 2014 4:31 pm

middle aged female wrote:
The Beav wrote:
Shark wrote:The DYes thread about this is not to be missed.


5 pages of crap with a post by Lowell threatening to ban the jackanapes.


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Admin is probably sonny boy. Lowell is probably not involved with day by day bannings anymore, I believe. It would be a great time for an old fashioned Christmas Purge, would it not?

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Re: Gunplay in Detroit

Postby guest » Thu Dec 25, 2014 4:21 am

Here's a nugget from the GP Going Ghetto thread -


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I think you're describing the regular GP. There's a tony part of GP doesn't associate with the bottom-rung commoners who live in the $50K-200K houses. Just like there's a sect of Birmingham that won't associate with Grove or the Southfield/Troy border crowd. The girls in the car last night were bottom-rung. I rather safely assume the girl at Liggett is on a substantial means-based scholarship.


I put the unfortunate honor student's name, and yes she really was described as a National Merit Scholar, into a search engine and came up with an address on Moran above Kercheval. Not the biggest houses in the five Pointes but hardly a place where people are in need. This guy is totally full of shit.
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Re: Gunplay in Detroit

Postby Shark » Thu Dec 25, 2014 5:36 pm

guest wrote:Here's a nugget from the GP Going Ghetto thread -


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I think you're describing the regular GP. There's a tony part of GP doesn't associate with the bottom-rung commoners who live in the $50K-200K houses. Just like there's a sect of Birmingham that won't associate with Grove or the Southfield/Troy border crowd. The girls in the car last night were bottom-rung. I rather safely assume the girl at Liggett is on a substantial means-based scholarship.


I put the unfortunate honor student's name, and yes she really was described as a National Merit Scholar, into a search engine and came up with an address on Moran above Kercheval. Not the biggest houses in the five Pointes but hardly a place where people are in need. This guy is totally full of shit.


He only signed up over there to be a racist anyway.
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Re: Gunplay in Detroit

Postby guest » Fri Dec 26, 2014 1:13 am

Police tell 7 Action News that a number of teens were playing with a gun in the basement of a home in the 4100 block of Virginia Park, on the city's west side, when the 16-year-old was shot in the head.


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Re: Gunplay in Detroit

Postby RoryKasel » Wed Dec 31, 2014 12:08 pm

middle aged female wrote:
The Suburban Avenger wrote:This must've been a helluva buzz kill for anyone enjoying a smoke outside the Tap Room:

Police believe a gunman was targeting the four teens who were shot as they sat inside a car in a desolate area on Detroit's east side Monday night.

A 16-year-old Grosse Pointe Woods girl was killed and three other teens were wounded when a man armed with what was believed to be an assault rifle fired up to 30 rounds into their parked car about 9:15 p.m. A fifth teen escaped injury in the attack.

Detroit Police Chief James Craig today said the attack "does not appear to be random."

"There are some other dimensions of this that we know about that I can't go into at this point," he said.


I'm going to go with "they pissed off the guy they bought the weed (or something worse) from."

Craig said police have had conversations with the one teen who was not struck by gunfire.

He said the last report he received on the three injured teens was that they were recovering. Craig called the shooting "tragic."

The wounded teens were a 16-year-old female, a 16-year-old male and a 15-year-old male.

Police say the teens were smoking marijuana in a car on Philip near Charlevoix, just three blocks from Detroit's border with Grosse Pointe Park.

"A vehicle pulled in front of them, the driver got out of the passenger side and fired several shots," Detroit police spokesman Adam Madera said, adding that crime-scene investigators found 25 to 30 shell casings.

Investigators were initially told the gunman was wearing Army-style fatigues and possibly body armor, but police say they have gotten conflicting statements about what happened.

The victims initially told police they were looking for the brother of one of the passengers and had pulled over in the area of Charlevoix and Philip when the attack occurred. But their statements appear to be in conflict.

"They're scared to tell their parents what they're doing" in Detroit, Assistant Police Chief Steve Dolunt said today.

He said it appeared the teens may have made earlier stops to buy marijuana and to buy something at a gas station before parking. The shooting could've been connected with drugs or road rage, Dolunt said.

"All their statements don't seem to be meshing," Madera said of the teens.

A spokeswoman at University Liggett School in Grosse Pointe Woods confirmed this morning that the dead girl was a student there.

"As you can imagine, we are heartbroken over the death of one of our students, and our thoughts and prayers go out to her family and friends and to the entire Liggett community during this very difficult time," said Michelle Franzen Martin, director of Marketing and Communications.

Harold Meeks, editor of the blog TellusDetroit.com, lives nearby and said he heard a fully-automatic weapon fired Monday night. He said the noise was so rapid, he first thought it was fireworks.

Then he heard it again.

"You can't pull a trigger that fast," Meeks said.
Three teens are in critical condition at Beaumont HospitalBuy Photo

Camaro Newsom, 46, lives on the same block where the teens were shot.

He was lying in bed when he heard several bursts of gunfire at about 9 p.m., followed by sounds of cars speeding away. He said he thought he heard two different guns.

"I figured somebody was just shooting," Newsom said, adding that he frequently hears shots fired in the neighborhood. "A lot of people got guns around here."

He said it's terrible and sad that the teens were shot.

Police describe the suspect as a black man, about 6 feet tall, wearing a black hat and army fatigues driving a tan vehicle, possibly a Cadillac.

After the shooting, one of the teens drove the others about 2.5 miles to Beaumont Hospital on Cadieux in Grosse Pointe.

Dolunt said he hopes police get "a straight story" from the teens.

"The kids in Grosse Pointe -- they think it can't happen to them," he said. "People shouldn't blame the people in Detroit; your kids are buying drugs there."
http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2014/12/23/grosse-pointe-farms-shooting-lower-east-side/20798333/


A pretty shitty dig by the cop, but, still.
They probably could've scored whatever they're looking for at My Dad's.

What about the kids in Harper Woods, or West Bloomfield, or Indian Village; do they think it can happen to them? No, they don't; it's part of being a kid. They think they're invincible.
Normally I side with cops, but that's a pretty douchebaggy thing to say. Here it is 2 days before Christmas and somebodies parents are arranging a funeral. That sucks in any community.


Every follow up article about the dead girl includes a disclaimer that her family adamantly denies she was using any kind of drugs. Seems that running interference on that angle would be the last thing they'd focus on but they'd be better off playing the 'Kids do the darnedest things' card.
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