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The Trials and Tribulations of Sumas

Postby middle aged female » Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:03 am

OK, someone last week mentioned wanting to start a similar thread but were afraid of Karmic repercussions. My Karma is screwed already, so here we go.
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Would not surprise me. Lived in a flat in GPP. The neighbor upstairs owed money. The utility company wanted in to turn off the power but I would not let them in. I told them legally I could not give them ingress and they should call the landlord for access. They told me they would shut down the whole house. Called my state rep's office and that was the end of that threat.

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Re: The Trials and Tribulations of Sumas

Postby Doctor Detroit » Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:08 am

Thanks for taking the karmic hit for me. Ah, but so many quality posts have already passed, from homeless friends and dying family and chronic insomnia, headaches, diseases, plagues of locusts....
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Re: The Trials and Tribulations of Sumas

Postby Doctor Detroit » Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:12 am

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This is a serious reply to your questions. I am mid fifties, my husband, slightly older. Seven years ago his employer canceled health care insurance and six years ago my employer canceled mine, due to "costs". Costs we could not absorb in our budget.

No dental, no health care...period. It is a different kind of genocide.

My Mom will be ninety in January. She is in great shape due to good health habits and great and I mean great health care insurance.

I feel like the elephant in the closet. It seems to me that federal social services just want to see us fade away. No old folks, no pay outs.

Bitter, you bet.
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Re: The Trials and Tribulations of Sumas

Postby Woodwards Friend » Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:33 am

Doctor Detroit wrote:
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This is a serious reply to your questions. I am mid fifties, my husband, slightly older. Seven years ago his employer canceled health care insurance and six years ago my employer canceled mine, due to "costs". Costs we could not absorb in our budget.

No dental, no health care...period. It is a different kind of genocide.

My Mom will be ninety in January. She is in great shape due to good health habits and great and I mean great health care insurance.

I feel like the elephant in the closet. It seems to me that federal social services just want to see us fade away. No old folks, no pay outs.

Bitter, you bet.



Universal health care is a great idea. But lacking health care = genocide. I doubt Suma is living like this:

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For what it's worth, that's one of the tamer Holocaust photographs available via good. Sumas can just fuck off right now. Stupid fucking cunt.
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Re: The Trials and Tribulations of Sumas

Postby guest » Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:11 pm

I feel like the elephant in the closet.


Couldn't this have gone in the HFD Closeted Old Elephant thread?
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Re: The Trials and Tribulations of Sumas

Postby Doctor Detroit » Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:42 am

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Welcome to Detroit. Sorry we could not be there to meet and greet. Just not in the budget at the moment.


She had mentioned on another thread both her and her husband are smokers. When Mrs. D and I quit, we were at about $400 a month for the two of us to buy smokes. If you find your budget is too tight to include a couple of drinks with friends one night, it's time to seriously think about whether you really want to continue paying someone as much as a car payment every month to slowly kill you. I know how hard it can be for some people, but at some point you've got to draw the line.

As one DYesser knows, you've got to come up with a lot of scrap metal per month these days to support the habit.
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Re: The Trials and Tribulations of Sumas

Postby susanarosa » Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:45 am

Doctor Detroit wrote:
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Welcome to Detroit. Sorry we could not be there to meet and greet. Just not in the budget at the moment.


She had mentioned on another thread both her and her husband are smokers. When Mrs. D and I quit, we were at about $400 a month for the two of us to buy smokes. If you find your budget is too tight to include a couple of drinks with friends one night, it's time to seriously think about whether you really want to continue paying someone as much as a car payment every month to slowly kill you. I know how hard it can be for some people, but at some point you've got to draw the line.

As one DYesser knows, you've got to come up with a lot of scrap metal per month these days to support the habit.


Wow. That's a lot of cigarettes.

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Re: The Trials and Tribulations of Sumas

Postby Doctor Detroit » Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:51 am

A bit over a pack a day each for two people. Was basically a carton a week each, and cartons were approaching $50 each.
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Re: The Trials and Tribulations of Sumas

Postby middle aged female » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:13 am

Doctor Detroit wrote:A bit over a pack a day each for two people. Was basically a carton a week each, and cartons were approaching $50 each.

The reason I quit back in 97 or so was that the gas tank fell off my car and I needed a new vehicle to get to Oakland U everyday, so I quit smoking and made a car payment on a Neon. If I had waited til now, with the price of cigarettes, I could be driving a Porsche

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Re: The Trials and Tribulations of Sumas

Postby Roquefort Robert » Thu Oct 22, 2009 4:34 pm

Perhaps they roll their own. I did that for a while and it was dirt cheap. I don't know what the price for a pouch of tobacco is now, but a few years ago it was under $10 for a carton. Now I just pay full price for a pack about every other day.

Forget this whole post, I don't want to seem as if I'm defending the stupid that is Sumas.
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Re: The Trials and Tribulations of Sumas

Postby Doctor Detroit » Thu Oct 22, 2009 4:37 pm

There was a time I rolled my own to try to save money as well, but now loose tobacco is no longer the safe haven it was.

The law will have the greatest impact on the price of loose cigarette tobacco, which is used for hand-rolled cigarettes. The previous tax rate for loose tobacco was $1.10 per pound. But, after Apr. 1 that rate will increase to $24.78 per pound.


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Re: The Trials and Tribulations of Sumas

Postby Roquefort Robert » Thu Oct 22, 2009 4:39 pm

Doctor Detroit wrote:There was a time I rolled my own to try to save money as well, but now loose tobacco is no longer the safe haven it was.

The law will have the greatest impact on the price of loose cigarette tobacco, which is used for hand-rolled cigarettes. The previous tax rate for loose tobacco was $1.10 per pound. But, after Apr. 1 that rate will increase to $24.78 per pound.


http://www.michigandaily.com/content/20 ... be-enacted

HOLY SHIT! So, how much does a 16 oz. pouch go for now? It was $6-$8, plus $1.75 for the tubes.
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Re: The Trials and Tribulations of Sumas

Postby gullycanyon » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:24 pm

Actually, before the tax hike, a 6 oz. bag (which is a shitload of cigarette tobacco) was about 11-12 bucks. The hike resulted in that bag costing almost twice that cost.

The temporary fix is that some producers of rolling tobacco are selling tobacco cut for cigarette-rolling but packaged & labelled as pipe tobacco. It may take a while for The Authorities to catch up to that stunt.
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Re: The Trials and Tribulations of Sumas

Postby D-Day » Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:19 am

gullycanyon wrote:Actually, before the tax hike, a 6 oz. bag (which is a shitload of cigarette tobacco) was about 11-12 bucks. The hike resulted in that bag costing almost twice that cost.

The temporary fix is that some producers of rolling tobacco are selling tobacco cut for cigarette-rolling but packaged & labelled as pipe tobacco. It may take a while for The Authorities to catch up to that stunt.


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Re: The Trials and Tribulations of Sumas

Postby thunderstruck » Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:33 am

I noticed the same pricing in SC last week. If I were a smoker I would have brought an extra suitcase.
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