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Re: Hot Fudge Book Club

Postby April St.Clair » Wed Jan 08, 2014 12:00 pm

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April St.Clair wrote:Brotha got me "The Complete Illustrated Encyclopedia of Royal Britain" by Charles Phillips for Christmas. It doesn't go as far back as my other book "British Kings and Queens" by Mike Ashley; however, Phillips goes more into the personal details and traits of the Kings and Queens than Ashley does. Phillips also includes the various castles that Kings and Queens grew up in and personal favorite retreats of said monarchy. As a person who has never been to England, it's a treat.

Have you read Antonia Fraser's "Kings and Queens Of England" or her "Six Wives of King Henry the Eighth"? Those are two of my favorite references for the British monarchy. I just got done watching the first two seasons of Monarchy with David Starkey. I took me up through Cromwell and then I realized Netflix didn't have season three. It's a good thing I know how it ends.


No, I haven't read those books. I try not to watch series based on Royalty either (The Tudors, Reign) because I get disappointed with the lack of proper details (Henry VIII was tall and had red hair, Mary Queen of Scots had nothing to do with Francis' death from a septic ear infection and she was barely a teen when she was married to him).

I find it strange that William I oldest son Robert of Normandy was denied the English thrown twice in his lifetime by his two younger brothers. How different history would have been had he ruled instead? Maybe it wouldn't have been that different since William II death was probably handed out by the youngest and ambitious son Henry I.
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Re: Hot Fudge Book Club

Postby middle aged female » Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:28 pm

April St.Clair wrote:
middle aged female wrote:
April St.Clair wrote:Brotha got me "The Complete Illustrated Encyclopedia of Royal Britain" by Charles Phillips for Christmas. It doesn't go as far back as my other book "British Kings and Queens" by Mike Ashley; however, Phillips goes more into the personal details and traits of the Kings and Queens than Ashley does. Phillips also includes the various castles that Kings and Queens grew up in and personal favorite retreats of said monarchy. As a person who has never been to England, it's a treat.

Have you read Antonia Fraser's "Kings and Queens Of England" or her "Six Wives of King Henry the Eighth"? Those are two of my favorite references for the British monarchy. I just got done watching the first two seasons of Monarchy with David Starkey. I took me up through Cromwell and then I realized Netflix didn't have season three. It's a good thing I know how it ends.


No, I haven't read those books. I try not to watch series based on Royalty either (The Tudors, Reign) because I get disappointed with the lack of proper details (Henry VIII was tall and had red hair, Mary Queen of Scots had nothing to do with Francis' death from a septic ear infection and she was barely a teen when she was married to him).

I find it strange that William I oldest son Robert of Normandy was denied the English thrown twice in his lifetime by his two younger brothers. How different history would have been had he ruled instead? Maybe it wouldn't have been that different since William II death was probably handed out by the youngest and ambitious son Henry I.

Yes, there was a good chance the Henry I would have gotten rid of both brothers to take the throne.
I don't think Mary would have killed Francis either; she was pretty much raised in the French court and probably would have preferred to remain its queen rather than be returned to heathen Scotland.
I don't watch those manufactured for TV royalty shows either; nor do I read the books like "The Other Boleyn Girl" or whatever it's called. It drives me crazy when they start making up things to fit their story or add characters to the mix who didn't exist in the time period. I've never watched one episode of The Tudors but I did try to watch "The White Queen" on cable, but gave it up after the second episode. I almost threw something at the TV during The Other Boleyn Girl.

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Re: Hot Fudge Book Club

Postby April St.Clair » Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:00 pm

middle aged female wrote:
April St.Clair wrote:
middle aged female wrote:
April St.Clair wrote:Brotha got me "The Complete Illustrated Encyclopedia of Royal Britain" by Charles Phillips for Christmas. It doesn't go as far back as my other book "British Kings and Queens" by Mike Ashley; however, Phillips goes more into the personal details and traits of the Kings and Queens than Ashley does. Phillips also includes the various castles that Kings and Queens grew up in and personal favorite retreats of said monarchy. As a person who has never been to England, it's a treat.

Have you read Antonia Fraser's "Kings and Queens Of England" or her "Six Wives of King Henry the Eighth"? Those are two of my favorite references for the British monarchy. I just got done watching the first two seasons of Monarchy with David Starkey. I took me up through Cromwell and then I realized Netflix didn't have season three. It's a good thing I know how it ends.


No, I haven't read those books. I try not to watch series based on Royalty either (The Tudors, Reign) because I get disappointed with the lack of proper details (Henry VIII was tall and had red hair, Mary Queen of Scots had nothing to do with Francis' death from a septic ear infection and she was barely a teen when she was married to him).

I find it strange that William I oldest son Robert of Normandy was denied the English thrown twice in his lifetime by his two younger brothers. How different history would have been had he ruled instead? Maybe it wouldn't have been that different since William II death was probably handed out by the youngest and ambitious son Henry I.

Yes, there was a good chance the Henry I would have gotten rid of both brothers to take the throne.
I don't think Mary would have killed Francis either; she was pretty much raised in the French court and probably would have preferred to remain its queen rather than be returned to heathen Scotland.
I don't watch those manufactured for TV royalty shows either; nor do I read the books like "The Other Boleyn Girl" or whatever it's called. It drives me crazy when they start making up things to fit their story or add characters to the mix who didn't exist in the time period. I've never watched one episode of The Tudors but I did try to watch "The White Queen" on cable, but gave it up after the second episode. I almost threw something at the TV during The Other Boleyn Girl.


Ha ha yeah, I can't imagine King Henry VIII giving two squirts about Mary Boleyn. I can't imagine him giving two squirts about ANY female (other than Jane, his third wife... but that's only because she gave him a son then died before he could get rid of her)

Although Cate Blanchett was a convincing Queen Elizabeth I, both of the movies were full of rumors and scandal.

I watched one episode of Reign and regretted it. The main characters were too old (Mary Queen of Scots and Francis) and Nostradamus wasn't a regular at the French court (he is there all the time!).
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Re: Hot Fudge Book Club

Postby middle aged female » Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:34 pm

April St.Clair wrote:
middle aged female wrote:
April St.Clair wrote:
middle aged female wrote:
April St.Clair wrote:Brotha got me "The Complete Illustrated Encyclopedia of Royal Britain" by Charles Phillips for Christmas. It doesn't go as far back as my other book "British Kings and Queens" by Mike Ashley; however, Phillips goes more into the personal details and traits of the Kings and Queens than Ashley does. Phillips also includes the various castles that Kings and Queens grew up in and personal favorite retreats of said monarchy. As a person who has never been to England, it's a treat.

Have you read Antonia Fraser's "Kings and Queens Of England" or her "Six Wives of King Henry the Eighth"? Those are two of my favorite references for the British monarchy. I just got done watching the first two seasons of Monarchy with David Starkey. I took me up through Cromwell and then I realized Netflix didn't have season three. It's a good thing I know how it ends.


No, I haven't read those books. I try not to watch series based on Royalty either (The Tudors, Reign) because I get disappointed with the lack of proper details (Henry VIII was tall and had red hair, Mary Queen of Scots had nothing to do with Francis' death from a septic ear infection and she was barely a teen when she was married to him).

I find it strange that William I oldest son Robert of Normandy was denied the English thrown twice in his lifetime by his two younger brothers. How different history would have been had he ruled instead? Maybe it wouldn't have been that different since William II death was probably handed out by the youngest and ambitious son Henry I.

Yes, there was a good chance the Henry I would have gotten rid of both brothers to take the throne.
I don't think Mary would have killed Francis either; she was pretty much raised in the French court and probably would have preferred to remain its queen rather than be returned to heathen Scotland.
I don't watch those manufactured for TV royalty shows either; nor do I read the books like "The Other Boleyn Girl" or whatever it's called. It drives me crazy when they start making up things to fit their story or add characters to the mix who didn't exist in the time period. I've never watched one episode of The Tudors but I did try to watch "The White Queen" on cable, but gave it up after the second episode. I almost threw something at the TV during The Other Boleyn Girl.


Ha ha yeah, I can't imagine King Henry VIII giving two squirts about Mary Boleyn. I can't imagine him giving two squirts about ANY female (other than Jane, his third wife... but that's only because she gave him a son then died before he could get rid of her)

Although Cate Blanchett was a convincing Queen Elizabeth I, both of the movies were full of rumors and scandal.

I watched one episode of Reign and regretted it. The main characters were too old (Mary Queen of Scots and Francis) and Nostradamus wasn't a regular at the French court (he is there all the time!).

He did sleep with Mary before he had Anne, but then he slept with most of the ladies of the court. The only reason he moved Heaven and Earth to marry Anne is because she wouldn't give in and sleep with him. In retrospect, if she were here to discuss it, I'll bet she regretted holding out on ol' Hank. Should have given it up and kept her head. But then, there would have been no Elizabeth R.
The wisest of his Queens was number 4, Ann of Cleves. Let him have the divorce and keep a place at court and be an Aunt to the royal kiddies. AND she didn't have to sleep with the old goat.

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Re: Hot Fudge Book Club

Postby guest » Mon Dec 07, 2015 12:40 am

I've been seeing things here and there about Aaron Foley and his advice book for white people moving to Detroit. It sounded like something I might look for at the library until MetroTimes ran an excerpt this week. Sorry, nothing there I haven't been hearing for the last ten years. Now if only I had the five minutes it took for me to read it back.

Oh, and thumbs up to DPL for not having it on order.
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